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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 04:17 PM
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Thanks to forum member JOHN89 and his help with the bypass of my knock sensor, I did some datalogging today. With the sensor enabled, I was seeing knock counts and knock retard. I have believed this to be false knock as it was occurring on my old engine.

With the knock sensor disabled, it showed zero counts, zero knock and no codes. Thanks JOHN89

Oh, here's the hazards of datalogging on the tires.





I'm 6'1" and I counted 21 paces first gear and 54 paces second gear. Not feet, but paces which would probably be closer to 3 feet to a pace.

**EDIT** I didn't warm the tires up at all, just a hard launch and I know there's a huge gap between first and second, I wasn't trying to leave the longest marks, just doing a scan run

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How did the datalogging work out?

Ready for the dyno soon? Looking forward to seeing the results of the AFR eliminator's on your new 383!

Looks like you had fun!
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Maybe I don't get it? If you disabled the knock sensor, doesn't it stand to reason there would be no knock retard and no knock counts? That doesn't mean there's no knock though???

What do you think was causing the false knock?
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Well, the knock sensor was bypassed therefore the computer saw no knock counts or knock retard.

There may still have been knock, but all the while I am thinking it has been false knock. The datalog today proved to me that the knock sensor bypass worked, which is what I was testing.
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Originally Posted by black_89_vette
The datalog today proved to me that the knock sensor bypass worked, which is what I was testing.
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Is your false knock the old headers+dipstick tube chestnut?
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What did he do to bypass the KS ??
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Agent, this is the brief page I made up quickly to bring to my mechanic. It shows posts and PM's from JOHN89 and a little diagram as well.

Linky.
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...and I'm using the cable you made me a few years ago too!!
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I'll bite, how do you bypass the KS ?
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Originally Posted by LD85
I'll bite, how do you bypass the KS ?

Originally Posted by black_89_vette
Agent, this is the brief page I made up quickly to bring to my mechanic. It shows posts and PM's from JOHN89 and a little diagram as well.

Linky.
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You get a red X using "linky" ??
http://www.inthehook.com/paul.html
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FYI, the GROUND wire to this ESC module is Brown on my 85.
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I'm bringing this thread back up, about to do the same thing.

Ld85: You say the ground on our '85s is brown though, not black as shown here?:

http://www.inthehook.com/paul.html
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