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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 08:40 PM
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How many turns lock to lock is an 87 Z52 supposed to have? 2 or 2.5?


I just wanna make sure the shop didn't screw me, and it turns 2.5 lock to lock.
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 09:28 PM
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Car and Driver's review of Z51 V.S. Z52: http://www.caranddriver.com/buying_g...ature/(page)/1

Z52 was optional in 87 & 88: steering wheel turns 2.5 turns lock to lock

Z51: steering wheel turns 2.75 turns lock to lock



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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 10:13 PM
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I was just curious because I see you can now buy steering in 2 turns lock to lock.
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 01:35 AM
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I think my previous '87 with Z52 turned even 2 turns, if I remember correctly.

The present '91, which turns a bit over 2 rounds, feels definitely 'slower'. This could also be partly due to the bigger steering wheel.
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by engle1147
Car and Driver's review of Z51 V.S. Z52: http://www.caranddriver.com/buying_g...ature/(page)/1

Z52 was optional in 87 & 88: steering wheel turns 2.5 turns lock to lock

Z51: steering wheel turns 2.75 turns lock to lock


I have a 1989 Z51 and it is about 2.25....... 2.75 is wrong.
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 08:16 AM
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87 and 88 Z51 and Z52 racks are identical, they should turn about 2 turns, the only difference was the spring rates between the suspensions.
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 11:18 AM
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Well now I have like 5 different answers... Who should I believe?!?! haha
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 11:37 AM
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I did a little more research and from what I can tell I got screwed... This sucks because I have already had them change the rack twice. Once because mine was old and leaking, the second time because the part they sold me was leaking... and I'm pretty sure that part turned 2 times lock to lock.

I'm ganna feel like a dick going back there and telling them they f'd up again, I honestly think they are sick of me and my red corvette haha!
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 04:34 PM
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One of my parts catalogs - Summit Racing, Corvette Central, Eckler's, Mid-America - lists the ways to determine a Z51 suspension.

I believe it's listed toward the center of the catalog, I just forgot which cat it's in.

My 86 had Z51 and the steering was right at 2-1/4 turns, lock to lock.

To be perfectly honest about it, I wasn't all that happy with the 2-1/4 lock/lock setup. It made steering movements very abrupt. In other words, only a small steering wheel movement gave BIG results.

It scared me a few times in semi-emergency situations, like when a car moved over into my lane right in front of me w/o warning.

Another time was when I was driving down the interstate several car lengths behind an 18-wheeler that changed lanes. Then, suddenly, there was an aluminum ladder spread across my lane. He saw it and moved over to another lane but by the time I saw it I had less time. A quick movement of the steering wheel gave instantaneous response but was very un-nerving.

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Originally Posted by ride250s
Well now I have like 5 different answers... Who should I believe?!?! haha
Listen to the guys who own the cars, not just read books or stay at a Holiday Inn.
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by BADDUCK
Listen to the guys who own the cars, not just read books or stay at a Holiday Inn.

Haha For Sure! But anyway I went to the Chevy Dealer today and discused it with them. Here are my results:

We found that Z52 comes with 2 rotations lock to lock.

Base Models come with 2.5 rotations lock to lock.

(These figures are right off the computer at the dealer so who ever says anything else is wrong, at least for an 87 corvette.)

The crazy thing about my situation is they ordered the correct Z52 rack for me, but some how part numbers or somthing got switched so I ended up with a base model rack.

Lesson of all of this is if you replace your rack, check for your self if you got the right one!
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I just changed an original Z52 rack on an 87 yesterday with the code WT on it and it was an even 2 turns lock-to-lock.
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Originally Posted by ride250s
Well now I have like 5 different answers... Who should I believe?!?! haha
So you got me curious - yesterday, while driving my '89 with Z51 I double checked my # of turns lock to lock......I got ~2 & 1/4.

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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by BADDUCK
I have a 1989 Z51 and it is about 2.25....... 2.75 is wrong.
Exactly
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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by erd90vettesc
87 and 88 Z51 and Z52 racks are identical, they should turn about 2 turns, the only difference was the spring rates between the suspensions.
You are correct!

According to the info on the "vital statistics" (pdf) on the car & Driver link the Z51 & Z52 have the same steering ratio...they also list the base model ratio which is different from the others. So I'm not sure why the stops/lock to lock are different between the Z51 & Z52?

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Old Oct 27, 2008 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by engle1147
So you got me curious - yesterday, while driving my '89 with Z51 I double checked my # of turns lock to lock......I got ~2 & 1/4.

I'm sure it is actually just 2 lock to lock, you may just have a little bit of play in the steering somewhere.

I have to wait for my new rack to come into the dealership now... Why do GM warehouse parts take liek a week and a half or more to get?!
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Old Oct 27, 2008 | 03:34 PM
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Could it be it's a 22 year old car?
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Old Nov 28, 2008 | 01:42 PM
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i have a 94 vette is there options for this year in the steering rack? cause iva 21/4 turns lock to lock
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Old Nov 28, 2008 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by lewisnake
i have a 94 vette is there options for this year in the steering rack? cause iva 21/4 turns lock to lock
Yes you can get the fast ratio for 93-96 vettes (2 turns lock to lock). My guess would be that yours is the fast ratio, but is worn out and a little sloppy so it has a 1/4 inch of play in it.

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Old Nov 28, 2008 | 05:24 PM
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my 89 fx3 with the z52

turns a tad over 2 lock to lock, .25 maybe
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