air pump not turning?
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Safety Car
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From: Los Angeles CA
air pump not turning?
i tried to start the car after putting in a ported plenum and tb
when the parts where out, i simple greened the engine bay.
water was everywhere, but i wiped everything down as best as i could.
fast forward, 1 and a half weeks later, the parts are back and the engine starts.
smoke and squeal is coming from the belt area, and the engine stumbles,
i feel the pulley's and the air pump has a hot one,
my guess is it is siezed,
is it repairable?
serpentine removal:::::::
my breaker bar is too long and hits the ac line on top i try to reposition it now it's parallel to the cross memeber, with no room to release the belt, any suggestions?
my half inch rachet won't fit between the crossmember the tensioner, now what?
when the parts where out, i simple greened the engine bay.
water was everywhere, but i wiped everything down as best as i could.
fast forward, 1 and a half weeks later, the parts are back and the engine starts.
smoke and squeal is coming from the belt area, and the engine stumbles,
i feel the pulley's and the air pump has a hot one,
my guess is it is siezed,
is it repairable?
serpentine removal:::::::
my breaker bar is too long and hits the ac line on top i try to reposition it now it's parallel to the cross memeber, with no room to release the belt, any suggestions?
my half inch rachet won't fit between the crossmember the tensioner, now what?
Last edited by slickfx3; Dec 3, 2008 at 06:22 PM.
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Safety Car
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From: Los Angeles CA
yes you are right, didn't take much corrosion ( i took it apart) to seize it,
just little water and a little time for it to do it's number, i guess if i were able to drive the car sooner the heat in and around that part would have cooked the water out, no matter
the bearing grease on that thing was dried out anyways, just a matter of time.
just little water and a little time for it to do it's number, i guess if i were able to drive the car sooner the heat in and around that part would have cooked the water out, no matter
the bearing grease on that thing was dried out anyways, just a matter of time.
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Yup, the same thing happened to me after I washed the engine. Everywhere I read, it said about covering or removing the alternator, battery, and cap/rotor. But nothing about the smog pump. I'll be getting me one from Autozone. I have the radiator drained. When I was checking the other pulleys. I noticed when turning the water pump pulley, that it will make a squeel sound that goes away when I turn the pulley really fast. I was thinking that may be because the radiator is drained, but maybe the pump is going out?
Pro
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From: Brookfield CT NCM#522998
anyone consider just taking out and putting in a bypass? I know lots of guys have, but I am not sure what the benefit/drawbacks are to removing it. I havent done much of anything on my new 86 yet, but I think I want to get rid of as much of that smog control stuff as possible. There is no requirement for emission on 25 yo cars here in CT, so that wont be an issue the next time it comes due.
Burning Brakes
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During my top end L98 build that I just finished up the exact thing happened to me. I had removed the air pump and cleaned the heck out of it and everything else. the pump had seized while sitting on the bench and before install I pulled it apart to grease it up but it never got real loose.
I finally went and order an AutoZone replacement giing them my core which I cleaned and repainted. WARNING, the Autozone one they have had different threads for the two bolts on the back that hold the bracket to the manifold and the other bracket!!!!!! Maybe fits an F-body.
So back to Autozone 2 days later they still had my core, I took it back greased it a bit more and slapped it on, at least the threads were correct! It's running fine but would not surprise me if it didn't last long. It seems like the smallest amount of water will cause them to seize.
I finally went and order an AutoZone replacement giing them my core which I cleaned and repainted. WARNING, the Autozone one they have had different threads for the two bolts on the back that hold the bracket to the manifold and the other bracket!!!!!! Maybe fits an F-body.
So back to Autozone 2 days later they still had my core, I took it back greased it a bit more and slapped it on, at least the threads were correct! It's running fine but would not surprise me if it didn't last long. It seems like the smallest amount of water will cause them to seize.
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Pro
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From: Brookfield CT NCM#522998
During my top end L98 build that I just finished up the exact thing happened to me. I had removed the air pump and cleaned the heck out of it and everything else. the pump had seized while sitting on the bench and before install I pulled it apart to grease it up but it never got real loose.
I finally went and order an AutoZone replacement giing them my core which I cleaned and repainted. WARNING, the Autozone one they have had different threads for the two bolts on the back that hold the bracket to the manifold and the other bracket!!!!!! Maybe fits an F-body.
So back to Autozone 2 days later they still had my core, I took it back greased it a bit more and slapped it on, at least the threads were correct! It's running fine but would not surprise me if it didn't last long. It seems like the smallest amount of water will cause them to seize.
I finally went and order an AutoZone replacement giing them my core which I cleaned and repainted. WARNING, the Autozone one they have had different threads for the two bolts on the back that hold the bracket to the manifold and the other bracket!!!!!! Maybe fits an F-body.
So back to Autozone 2 days later they still had my core, I took it back greased it a bit more and slapped it on, at least the threads were correct! It's running fine but would not surprise me if it didn't last long. It seems like the smallest amount of water will cause them to seize.
Le Mans Master
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From: Irvine Ca
That Pump is ~$50 from Kragen. It is easier to replace than it is to rebuild. Just one thing, paint the Steel part of the housing prior to installing, it rust quickly.
There is a youtube on taking the Serpentine belt loose on an l98
There is a youtube on taking the Serpentine belt loose on an l98
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During my top end L98 build that I just finished up the exact thing happened to me. I had removed the air pump and cleaned the heck out of it and everything else. the pump had seized while sitting on the bench and before install I pulled it apart to grease it up but it never got real loose.
I finally went and order an AutoZone replacement giing them my core which I cleaned and repainted. WARNING, the Autozone one they have had different threads for the two bolts on the back that hold the bracket to the manifold and the other bracket!!!!!! Maybe fits an F-body.
So back to Autozone 2 days later they still had my core, I took it back greased it a bit more and slapped it on, at least the threads were correct! It's running fine but would not surprise me if it didn't last long. It seems like the smallest amount of water will cause them to seize.
I finally went and order an AutoZone replacement giing them my core which I cleaned and repainted. WARNING, the Autozone one they have had different threads for the two bolts on the back that hold the bracket to the manifold and the other bracket!!!!!! Maybe fits an F-body.
So back to Autozone 2 days later they still had my core, I took it back greased it a bit more and slapped it on, at least the threads were correct! It's running fine but would not surprise me if it didn't last long. It seems like the smallest amount of water will cause them to seize.
It looks like every parts store carries the same brand, Cardone.
Safety Car
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I want to keep it stock. I plan on selling it in a year or so to get a truck. So, I don't want a potential buyer to pass cause they think I'm a "bubba".
Though, I say if the Cardone pump from Autozone isn't threaded for the stock bolts, then I say I may could just put the guts of the new one into the old casing.
But, I'd need to figure out how to get the casing apart as I've got all the bolts apart. It just doesn't want to seperate.
Though, I say if the Cardone pump from Autozone isn't threaded for the stock bolts, then I say I may could just put the guts of the new one into the old casing.
But, I'd need to figure out how to get the casing apart as I've got all the bolts apart. It just doesn't want to seperate.
Cruising
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Air pump
My 1987 did this exact same thing...I just ordered a SMOG Pump eliminator and was done with it. I had also done an underdrive pulley swap at this time, and after all was said and done, it felt like the engine responded quicker. I'm not sure which one of the two made the biggest difference. Maybe the both combined...not sure.
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From: Palm Beach
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Do you have yours out to see how it spins? Mine spins, though I guess it doesn't really hang up like something is hitting. While spinning, there is one point in the rotation where I can feel a little resistance. Kinda like it barely sticks at one point. It's not real bad.
Though, I do know there are little plates that slide in and out while it spins, so it could be normal. I wish Autozone had one in stock I could compare to.
Though, I do know there are little plates that slide in and out while it spins, so it could be normal. I wish Autozone had one in stock I could compare to.