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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 11:50 PM
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To check for leaking injectors, just start the car with gauge connected and pressure regulator disconnected and plugged. Shut the car down, and let it set. If you lose more than 10lbs in 10 minutes you no doubt have a leak. Less than that you can still obviously have a leak but it is less severe. Be sure you do this with the car totally cold!!! Hot fuel rails will give false results.
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Old Dec 18, 2008 | 04:35 PM
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Update please. Just wondering what is going on?

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Old Dec 19, 2008 | 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by coupeguy2001
This sounds like a bad intake gasket, and a bad injector.
1. if the gasket is bad, the thing won't run because of the massive vacuum leak.
2. when it quits, and the injector is leaking, the manifold gasket is allowing the fuel into the oil.
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he has a cracked intake manifold, cracked head, or just a plain ol' mystery.

Well I disagree to a point. A stuck or popped injector is going to pour fuel into the engine. This will of course wash the cylinder walls and put fuel into the oil. It's also going to foul that cylinder and cause a whole world of raw oxygen to cross the O2 sensor. This in turn will cause the ECM to richen the system and make the entire engine run like crap.

Start with a mechanics stethoscope and listen to each injector with the engine running. You should able to easily identify the bad injector for the lack of TICK TICK TICK. You could try pulling the plugs but with as rich as your system will be running you may have several fouled plugs by now.
You are however far better off to replace the injectors as a set. Updates and design changes will leave you with one injector flowing different than the others and cause all kinds of issues.
Start with the injectors and some new plugs. Then see if all of your issues clear up. I am betting that they do. You need to take a mechanical diagnostic approach to this though. Changing a bunch of things can leave you at a loss for what helped and what hurt.
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 01:04 AM
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If I replace the injectors and the plugs, and that doesnt fix the problem then my theory would lead to the ECM Being Bad.
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Old Dec 31, 2008 | 09:04 PM
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Are you using a code tester or just a test wire to trigger the self test? Good luck and keep us informed on your progress.

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Old Dec 31, 2008 | 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by BluRay
To check for leaking injectors, just start the car with gauge connected and pressure regulator disconnected and plugged. Shut the car down, and let it set. If you lose more than 10lbs in 10 minutes you no doubt have a leak. Less than that you can still obviously have a leak but it is less severe. Be sure you do this with the car totally cold!!! Hot fuel rails will give false results.
I'm not sure that pressure leak-down is a sure-fire indicator of an injector. I have an 85 and I recently replaced the injectors and fuel pump. Got the injectors from FIC so I am confident they are good. The car starts, runs and idles great. My pressure at idle is a solid 33 psi. With throttle is goes up to about 40 psi. When I turn it off, pressure will often drop off faster than 10 psi in 10 minutes, especially when cold. Jon from FIC told me it could also be caused by the cold start injector.

I did notice when I replaced the fuel pump that the connection between the pulsator and the fuel pump fits looser than I would expect. I think it's probably due to age and I think that can be a source of leak-down as well. Since the car starts and runs fine I have not pursued the issue as a science project.

What got my attention is that his fuel pressure drops with throttle. It should be just the opposite.
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