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Old Feb 1, 2009 | 05:05 PM
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Will my stock tpi intake from my 89 corvette work with the zz4 engine?
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Old Feb 1, 2009 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by mavidatt
Will my stock tpi intake from my 89 corvette work with the zz4 engine?
I have an 88, but everthing should be the same..
The ZZ4 is pretty much an L98 with higher compression, little bigger cam, and 4 bolt mains.




Few small things: (That I can remember
Use Fuel pump block off plate from your old engine.
Use L98 water pump (not the one that comes with the ZZ4), and have to grind a little on this bolt - to make it fit.

Some use the smaller diameter harmonic balancer from the vette L98, but you can use the larger ZZ4 balancer, if you dent the crossmember down a litttle...


Think that's all, any more ??? let me know

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the zz4 has flat top pistons?????
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the zz4 has flat top pistons and 62 cc heads......Hmmm I have 58cc heads and flat top pistons. What is the dish in a stock 89 corvette piston?
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Old Feb 1, 2009 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by coupeguy2001
the zz4 has flat top pistons and 62 cc heads......Hmmm I have 58cc heads and flat top pistons. What is the dish in a stock 89 corvette piston?
ZZ4 has the same 58cc , angle plug 113 heads used on late L98's
Same head , same casting ; better (LT4 ) springs fitted

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/1564259341-post3.html

http://www.sdpc2000.com/product/2450...ateEngine.aspx

http://www.jegs.com/i/GM+Performance...02609/16051/-1

http://paceperformance.com/index.asp...&ProdID=194446

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Don't forget to remove ZZ4 damper and replace it with the one from old engine. ZZ4 damper too large to clear crossmember. Ask me how I know.
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ZZ4 damper too large to clear crossmember. Ask me how I know.

Didn't you have the big hammer some use?
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Originally Posted by rodj

LT4 valves too.

Plus a forged crankshft, PM rods, LT1 pistons
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Check this out from Pace


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You can use your old parts


PAC-24502609 - Pace Performance Exclusive ZZ4 Base Long block Engine
Pace Price $3,298.95
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Originally Posted by SuperL98
I have an 88, but everthing should be the same..
The ZZ4 is pretty much an L98 with higher compression, little bigger cam, and 4 bolt mains.




Few small things: (That I can remember
Use Fuel pump block off plate from your old engine.
Use L98 water pump (not the one that comes with the ZZ4), and have to grind a little on this bolt - to make it fit.

Some use the smaller diameter harmonic balancer from the vette L98, but you can use the larger ZZ4 balancer, if you dent the crossmember down a litttle...


Think that's all, any more ??? let me know
thanks alot, that is exactly the answer i needed, and thanks for all the tips and hints with what i need to do when i get it
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Originally Posted by 86 Red Neck
Check this out from Pace


Free shipping &
You can use your old parts


PAC-24502609 - Pace Performance Exclusive ZZ4 Base Long block Engine
Pace Price $3,298.95
yeah that is the one i was thinking about buying and just use the parts from my original motor with it
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Old Feb 2, 2009 | 12:49 PM
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also another question what kind of performance are you looking at with using your original intake with the zz4. I know it wont produce as much as buying the whole carburated setup, but still about how much power should i be looking at?
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Originally Posted by mavidatt
also another question what kind of performance are you looking at with using your original intake with the zz4. I know it wont produce as much as buying the whole carburated setup, but still about how much power should i be looking at?
If your ALL stock, intake, exhaust, etc .... You might see 10+ HP & Torque (not much), with headers, better exhaust and intake a bit more.
I've got a blower on mine, so my results won't help you much...

One other thing, I was told (by quite a few people) is the ZZ4 oil pan didn't have as good baffles, as the Corvette, and it would stick down to much.
Turns out that wasn't exactly true, the baffles look the same and although the ZZ4 does hange down lower, it is still above the transmission pan. I glued a skid plate on it anyway, but I don't think you need it.




I wanted to leave the ZZ4 long block as untouched as possible, if I ever had any warranty problems, and I thought I might pull it out and sell it off someday, when I rebuild the original motor
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Old Feb 2, 2009 | 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperL98
If your ALL stock, intake, exhaust, etc .... You might see 10+ HP & Torque (not much), with headers, better exhaust and intake a bit more.
I've got a blower on mine, so my results won't help you much...

One other thing, I was told (by quite a few people) is the ZZ4 oil pan didn't have as good baffles, as the Corvette, and it would stick down to much.
Turns out that wasn't exactly true, the baffles look the same and although the ZZ4 does hange down lower, it is still above the transmission pan. I glued a skid plate on it anyway, but I don't think you need it.




I wanted to leave the ZZ4 long block as untouched as possible, if I ever had any warranty problems, and I thought I might pull it out and sell it off someday, when I rebuild the original motor
thanks again. What all have you done with your zz4? Also yeah, i wont be able to put headers on it at first, but am going to later on.
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IM planning on upgrading the intake with edlebrock baseplate and runners. What style would I need? My car is an 89, but since im changing the engine over to zz4 do i go with something else. On jegs it shows the intake as either being for 85-88 sb chevy's or 89-92 sb chevys? which one would i use with the zz4?

http://www.jegs.com/p/Edelbrock/749252/10002/-1
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Originally Posted by mavidatt
IM planning on upgrading the intake with edlebrock baseplate and runners. What style would I need? On jegs it shows the intake as either being for 85-88 sb chevy's or 89-92 sb chevys? which one would i use with the zz4?
ZZ4 heads are same as 88 -90 113 alum Vette heads which have old style regular SBC intake bolt pattern

89-92 sb chev refers to the late F=body iron heads with changed bolt angle
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I suggest you freshen up the #113 heads with 2.00"/1.56" valves, at least a 3-angle valve job and some pocket porting along with some chamber cleanup and 1.6:1 RRs, springs, etc.

You could also siamese the intake base to get some more high end torque out of the engine.
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