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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 04:40 PM
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I'm still having electrical problems with my '85. I tested for voltage on the positive battery cable at the starter and only got 3 volts... the same amount i've been finding everywhere else on the car. At the other end of the cable I have 12.5 volts. Does this mean there's something wrong with the cable, the battery, or am I completely off?
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im no electrican, but sounds like pos. batt. cable. Ohm test it?
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im no electrican, but sounds like pos. batt. cable. Ohm test it?
how? what am i looking for when I test the resistance? (seriously have no idea what i'm doing)
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how? what am i looking for when I test the resistance? (seriously have no idea what i'm doing)
Yes, put a lead on each of the cables ends and check the resistance of the cable should be less the .05 Make sure you have good connections between the cable and the meter leads.

You'll want to unhook the battery before you do this test.

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nevermind, its not the battery cable.
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nevermind, its not the battery cable.
Spill the beans
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I'm an idiot when it comes to electric stuff, the battery was never connected so of course there would be no voltage at the starter

However, turns out when I fixed the fusible link last year I didnt solder one end good enough and it broke loose. I fixed it and now I have full power to everything, it even cranks over... but the fuel pump wont kick on! So now I need to look that up.
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I checked the FP fuse and it was good, even threw in a new one just to be sure and no change. Theres no voltage at the fuse block for the FP fuse either. I checked for voltage at the FP relay and theres nothing going in or out. The book says to apply 12 volts to terminal G on the ALDL, is there another terminal that has 12 volts I can to G?

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I checked the FP fuse and it was good, even threw in a new one just to be sure and no change. Theres no voltage at the fuse block for the FP fuse either. I checked for voltage at the FP relay and theres nothing going in or out. The book says to apply 12 volts to terminal G on the ALDL, is there another terminal that has 12 volts I can to G?
Just get a ~4' length of wire and run it from the + battery terminal over to "G" and the pump should come on.
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Just get a ~4' length of wire and run it from the + battery terminal over to "G" and the pump should come on.
I cant find one!

BTW the pump is a brand new AC Delco unit I got about a year ago along with injectors, filter, pump sock, and regulator. Assuming the pump does indeed run when I jump the terminal, what path is the most likely culprit?
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I cant find one!

BTW the pump is a brand new AC Delco unit I got about a year ago along with injectors, filter, pump sock, and regulator. Assuming the pump does indeed run when I jump the terminal, what path is the most likely culprit?
The fuel pump has a fuel relay on the firewall by the brake booster. You may want to replace the relay if you feel your's is at fault. Take a look at the wires that go to the relay to ensure they are not damaged or melted (several CF members have had this problem). If the cluster fuel gage shows "any amount" at all....the ground for the fuel pump is OK.. you just need the +12 to the pump.

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The fuel pump has a fuel relay on the firewall by the brake booster. You may want to replace the relay if you feel your's is at fault. Take a look at the wires that go to the relay to ensure they are not damaged or melted (several CF members have had this problem). If the cluster fuel gage shows "any amount" at all....the ground for the fuel pump is OK.. you just need the +12 to the pump.

Yes I have already checked the grounds already, theres just no 12v like you said. The wires on the relay dont look so hot but theres no voltage on ANY of them even before the relay which makes me think the problem is elsewhere. The fuel gauge is working, got like 1/2 tank
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Yes I have already checked the grounds already, theres just no 12v like you said. The wires on the relay dont look so hot but theres no voltage on ANY of them even before the relay which makes me think the problem is elsewhere. The fuel gauge is working, got like 1/2 tank
The relay/voltage will time out/drop out after a few seconds if the ignition reference pulses are not seen by the ECM. The + 12v wire to "G" is a great way to figure out if you have a working pump/circuit....pump will run all day until you remove the wire.
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Yes I have already checked the grounds already, theres just no 12v like you said. The wires on the relay dont look so hot but theres no voltage on ANY of them even before the relay which makes me think the problem is elsewhere. The fuel gauge is working, got like 1/2 tank
On my 86, the fuel pump relay should have a constant 12 volts at terminal "E", via fusible link and battery. ECM sends 12 volts to terminal "C" to energize coil in relay. If 85 is anything like 86, it seems you have a blown fusible link or bad wire from battery to relay.
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I jumped terminal G and the pump does indeed work. So now I agree with you guys that its most likely a bad fusible link but the wiring diagram posted before doesnt show me which one leads to the fuel pump circuit. Can anyone look in the '85 FSM and tell me where to find it?
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I got it up and running today, I just started testing every single fusible link I could find and turned out to be one near the battery that was bad. It runs just fine but throwing a code 54 now. Thanks for the help
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