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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 01:28 PM
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I just got back from Autozone and bought some Maf cleaner spray and it is specifically designed for fuel injected cars with Mafs. Great, it's the right stuff. I read the bottle and it says adds 4-10 horsepower to the wheels. I asked the sales clerk about it and he swore up and down that it would make my car alot faster. I was thinking this guy was a bit odd but yea, i spraed each side down with 4 quick shots and am letting it dry for a few hours in the shade. I know damn good and well, I am not going to see any horsepower. It's not even that dirty. What do you guys think of that outrageous claim for some cleaner?
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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 01:38 PM
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Hate to say this, but there's a sucker born every minute. Bolt the maf back up, drive to Autozone with your receipt and return the thing. How in the world do you think this can possibly give you 4 hp? By the way, I've got some land in a swamp in Florida for sale...
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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Harley Davidson
I read the bottle and it says adds 4-10 horsepower to the wheels
That's only if you keep/leave the bottle spraying and connected to the intake while running the engine.

Side note: I've seen the "land" that 383vette is willing to sell you...it's awesome!
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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by engle1147
That's only if you keep/leave the bottle spraying and connected to the intake while running the engine.

Side note: I've seen the "land" that 383vette is willing to sell you...it's awesome!
Good one, I'll split it with you.
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Forget about the 4-10 HP gains, abvious selling hype.....but it is good practice to to clean your MAF sensors and the screan mesh. The MAF sensor is heated up by running specific amount of current through it. as more air passes over the sensor during accleration, the temps sensor will decrease, which will casue the circuit to increase current to maintain a pre-determined sensor temp. All of this activity and information is translated into the Mass of Air that is Flowing. By keeping the sensors clean, they can react more accurately. The intent of the screen is to have uniform air flow through the intake so that the small sensors are representative of the airflow through the entire screen. De-screening is not a good idea, as this can create turbulance and mess up the true air mass reading.

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I didn't buy it for the horsepower gain! I bought it because it was the only brand they sold and the maf should be cleaned occassionally. I would rather spend 5 dollars and ignore the claim than having my maf sensor cause my motor to run rich or lean due to the fact that it's getting a false reading. I was saying, how can any one be gullable enough to buy it PURELY for that reason. I was poking fun of it. Notice I said "outrageous" claim, how I openly admitted it was purely . I am expecting nothing from cleaning the Maf sensor other than having the feeling that I am doing my part of keeping my motor and the electronics up to par to minimize the chance of failure. There may be suckers born, but I am not one and took no interest in that stupid claim.
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Originally Posted by Harley Davidson
I just got back from Autozone and bought some Maf cleaner spray and it is specifically designed for fuel injected cars with Mafs. Great, it's the right stuff. I read the bottle and it says adds 4-10 horsepower to the wheels. I asked the sales clerk about it and he swore up and down that it would make my car alot faster. I was thinking this guy was a bit odd but yea, i spraed each side down with 4 quick shots and am letting it dry for a few hours in the shade. I know damn good and well, I am not going to see any horsepower. It's not even that dirty. What do you guys think of that outrageous claim for some cleaner?:toetap:

As stated in my original post, I expect no horsepower gains...
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Originally Posted by 383vett
Hate to say this, but there's a sucker born every minute. Bolt the maf back up, drive to Autozone with your receipt and return the thing. How in the world do you think this can possibly give you 4 hp? By the way, I've got some land in a swamp in Florida for sale...
Why would I return it? I bought it for the reason I intended. To spray the maf to remove any dust particles that may have built up. I keps the screen and wire inside moist and now it's drying. What is the big deal about that? Horsepower from cleaning the Maf?
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Originally Posted by MikeC4
Forget about the 4-10 HP gains, abvious selling hype.....but it is good practice to to clean your MAF sensors and the screan mesh. The MAF sensor is heated up by running specific amount of current through it. as more air passes over the sensor during accleration, the temps sensor will decrease, which will casue the circuit to increase current to maintain a pre-determined sensor temp. All of this activity and information is translated into the Mass of Air that is Flowing. By keeping the sensors clean, they can react more accurately. The intent of the screen is to have uniform air flow through the intake so that the small sensors are representative of the airflow through the entire screen. De-screening is not a good idea, as this can create turbulance and mess up the true air mass reading.

I am glad you got the point I was trying to make. Reducing the risk of premature failure or false readings. No gains expected. All snake oil as is the air foil, hyperchips, power couplers, K&N, ect.
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Originally Posted by Harley Davidson
I am glad you got the point I was trying to make. Reducing the risk of premature failure or false readings. No gains expected. All snake oil as is the air foil, hyperchips, power couplers, K&N, ect.
You forgot IAT relocation......a 20HP gain !!!!!


so do I win all that $$$$ in your avatar ?
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You forgot IAT relocation......a 20HP gain !!!!!


so do I win all that $$$$ in your avatar ?
It's a line of 45 1.00 dollar bills with play money mixed in.
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I suspect the claim of horsepower increase is based on a worse case situation. If your MAF wires are heavily coated with oil or residue, then cleaning them with the spray MAY show a HP increase.

When the MAF wires on my 86 were coated with K&N filter oil, my BLM readings were pegged at 108. Spraying the wires with CRC brought those values back into normal range. That change could have resulted in a HP improvement.

Advertising, many times, plays games with your head.

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I live in Florida how much for the land?
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Originally Posted by Harley Davidson
I just got back from Autozone and bought some Maf cleaner spray and it is specifically designed for fuel injected cars with Mafs. Great, it's the right stuff. I read the bottle and it says adds 4-10 horsepower to the wheels. I asked the sales clerk about it and he swore up and down that it would make my car alot faster. I was thinking this guy was a bit odd but yea, i spraed each side down with 4 quick shots and am letting it dry for a few hours in the shade. I know damn good and well, I am not going to see any horsepower. It's not even that dirty. What do you guys think of that outrageous claim for some cleaner?
"...and he swore up and down that it would make my car alot faster."

- your first clue - "sales clerk at autozone"

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I don't believe it, but I think it is a good idea to maintain your MAF.
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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 05:20 PM
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The MAF would have to be REALLY dirty for the car to gain horsepower
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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 10:24 PM
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All these MAF's have a "burnoff" feature specifically for this reason - so they shouldn't ever really get dirty enough to need a cleaning. That being said, I'll probably still try some of this stuff.
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When your car starts running like kaka, unplug the MAF and it'll get you home.
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Originally Posted by Radioshop
When your car starts running like kaka, unplug the MAF and it'll get you home.
Assuming the MAF is what's causing the crappy running, yep, that's a good tip. That's also a great way to tune your VE tables.
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I cleaned my maf using this stuff over a white rag. I was surprised at how much black residue was on the rag when I was done. As far as hp gain, doubt it, but every little thing adds up. If you have a dirty maf, dirty tb, and dirt everywhere you will have idle and maybe driveability problems, and I will bet your car won't run as well as someone who has everything clean and maintained.

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