New stroker motor bogs down at full throttle
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From: Glen Elder KS
New stroker motor bogs down at full throttle
I recently installed a 475 hp stroker in my 86 corvette. It has 26lb injectors, K&N filter and a upgraded computer. I broke it in for 500 miles. The problem is when the motor winds up over 3/4 throttle it bogs down and losses power and blows smoke out the exhaust. Any help would be greatly appriciated. Thanks
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The smoke is from too much fuel. When it idles it runs rich. I reset the computer by disconnecting the battery for a hour. Then started it up put it in drive and held the brake for 15 min. It ran good for about 6 miles then started acting up again. When it acts up the gas mileage goes from 20 mpg to 8 mpg. The computer is off of ebay.
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Needs a tune for the idle issue and the injectors are probably too small at the higher rpms.
Resetting the computer temporarily changes the fuel trims back to 128. They'll stay there until the ECM begins learning and updates them based on o2 sensor feedback.
Resetting the computer temporarily changes the fuel trims back to 128. They'll stay there until the ECM begins learning and updates them based on o2 sensor feedback.
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A wideband will tell you what is going on. When it bogs, you can see for sure whether it is too rich or lean and where. Then have your computer calibrated. Is there a dyno near you? They will also be able to check with a wideband.
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Lowering the fuel pressure will at best solve the idle issue but make the WOT bog worse. 26# injectors on a 475hp stroker engine are woefully inadequate even if he is running them at 50psi+
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30# or 36# would be more in the ballpark but would make the idle worse. Custom tune needed.
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I know if I crank up my fuel pressure, mine will bog at WOT.
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At 6000rpm my stock 28# injectors were at 100% duty cycle at WOT on a 425hp engine with a 13.1:1 A/F ratio. 26# injectors on an engine with 50 more hp aren't going to cut it. People with stroker engines, self included, run a minimum of 30# injectors and some run larger.
Needs a datalog, needs larger injectors, needs a tune.
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At 255 gm/sec airflow, 26 lb injectors are sufficient for a 10:1 AFR. They certainly could be enough to bog the motor.
It could be going rich if the tuner went overboard with PE and if the motor isn't really flowing that well to begin with. However, it is not very likely that the ecm is actually tuned to provide an actual AFR any richer than aprox. 11:1, since this requires some special changes and know-how.
Does this 475 hp stroker still have a tpi intake?
It could be going rich if the tuner went overboard with PE and if the motor isn't really flowing that well to begin with. However, it is not very likely that the ecm is actually tuned to provide an actual AFR any richer than aprox. 11:1, since this requires some special changes and know-how.
Does this 475 hp stroker still have a tpi intake?
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If its blowing black smoke, the O2 sensor may be fouled. A new one will get contaminated quickly if the tune is that far off. I am not a tuner but I have replaced a couple O2 sensors.
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He's going lean at WOT and it's likely the cam has so much duration/overlap that the computer can't compensate at idle.
At 6000rpm my stock 28# injectors were at 100% duty cycle at WOT on a 425hp engine with a 13.1:1 A/F ratio. 26# injectors on an engine with 50 more hp aren't going to cut it. People with stroker engines, self included, run a minimum of 30# injectors and some run larger.
Needs a datalog, needs larger injectors, needs a tune.
At 6000rpm my stock 28# injectors were at 100% duty cycle at WOT on a 425hp engine with a 13.1:1 A/F ratio. 26# injectors on an engine with 50 more hp aren't going to cut it. People with stroker engines, self included, run a minimum of 30# injectors and some run larger.
Needs a datalog, needs larger injectors, needs a tune.
Could be oil for all I know, the OP is not giving much info.
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From: Glen Elder KS
The car has the stock tune port injection it was mildly ported and polished on the inside of runners and gasket matched. It has been bored (not sure how much) mild cam, cast steel Eagle crank, I beam rods, flat top hypereutchic speed pro pistons with speed pro moly rings. The heads have been ported and polishied with a 3 angle valve job and heavier valve springs. I'm not sure what else was done to it. I bought a new o2 sensor today. I will see if that helps in the morning.