Pre-Cat removal
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Burning Brakes
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Pre-Cat removal
I was just under the car getting the exhaust off the manifold for my head removal project and I looked at the y-pipe to the main cat. I'm thinking that an easy thing to do is remove the y-pipe take it to a good muffler shop and have them just cut the pre-cats out and replace with pipe welded in place????????? This wy my O2 sensor stays right where it is and all bolts back in.
I don't want ot change the pipe size or anything, and I'm not going to headers just wanted to make minor changes including replacing the main cat with a high flow.
Does this sound like a good plan?
I don't want ot change the pipe size or anything, and I'm not going to headers just wanted to make minor changes including replacing the main cat with a high flow.
Does this sound like a good plan?
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If you remove it from the car it will be very hard on the muffler shop to weld the hollow/filler pipes in and have everything line back up correctly so it bolts back up to the car easily. I recommend welding it why it is still on the car or replacing the Y pipe with one that is already without pre cats.
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If you remove it from the car it will be very hard on the muffler shop to weld the hollow/filler pipes in and have everything line back up correctly so it bolts back up to the car easily. I recommend welding it why it is still on the car or replacing the Y pipe with one that is already without pre cats.
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Do that or,
If you dont mind to spend a little money,get this if you havent seen it.
http://www.mamotorworks.com/corvette-3-36-971.html
Ps,I had my exhaust welded and etc before and they never lasted.Had leaks,cracks,rust or etc with some shoddy workmanship and money wasted.Bought a replacement pipe like the one in the link.
If you dont mind to spend a little money,get this if you havent seen it.
http://www.mamotorworks.com/corvette-3-36-971.html
Ps,I had my exhaust welded and etc before and they never lasted.Had leaks,cracks,rust or etc with some shoddy workmanship and money wasted.Bought a replacement pipe like the one in the link.
Last edited by Aggravated4life; May 13, 2009 at 10:46 PM.
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Burning Brakes
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If I were to go the route of "punching out" the pre-cats how would I go about that. What to use? pipe? How do you get around the bend of the down pipe portion from the manifold?
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heres what someone did to mine but I dont know who or when he did it.
anyways take sawzall or grinder after romoving the heat shield and open it up, then simply gut it and re-weld the piece back on and then put the heat shiel back on.
anyways take sawzall or grinder after romoving the heat shield and open it up, then simply gut it and re-weld the piece back on and then put the heat shiel back on.
Last edited by jeffp1167; May 13, 2009 at 11:57 PM.
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If you remove it from the car it will be very hard on the muffler shop to weld the hollow/filler pipes in and have everything line back up correctly so it bolts back up to the car easily. I recommend welding it why it is still on the car or replacing the Y pipe with one that is already without pre cats.
Do that or,
If you dont mind to spend a little money,get this if you havent seen it.
http://www.mamotorworks.com/corvette-3-36-971.html
Ps,I had my exhaust welded and etc before and they never lasted.Had leaks,cracks,rust or etc with some shoddy workmanship and money wasted.Bought a replacement pipe like the one in the link.
If you dont mind to spend a little money,get this if you havent seen it.
http://www.mamotorworks.com/corvette-3-36-971.html
Ps,I had my exhaust welded and etc before and they never lasted.Had leaks,cracks,rust or etc with some shoddy workmanship and money wasted.Bought a replacement pipe like the one in the link.
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I was just under the car getting the exhaust off the manifold for my head removal project and I looked at the y-pipe to the main cat. I'm thinking that an easy thing to do is remove the y-pipe take it to a good muffler shop and have them just cut the pre-cats out and replace with pipe welded in place????????? This wy my O2 sensor stays right where it is and all bolts back in.
I don't want ot change the pipe size or anything, and I'm not going to headers just wanted to make minor changes including replacing the main cat with a high flow.
Does this sound like a good plan?
I don't want ot change the pipe size or anything, and I'm not going to headers just wanted to make minor changes including replacing the main cat with a high flow.
Does this sound like a good plan?
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The ones on my 87 started rattling so I had them cut off and a pipe welded on but they were on the car at the time there were a couple of slight bends they had to do for proper alignment. If your Y pipe is still good have them welded if not replace the pipe. However if you live somewhere they have a visual inspection you will not pass.
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I'm Atlanta and we do have visual inspection. But how is the average tech running one of these places going to know that this model originally had pre-cats and then the main cat???? I guess if I go with the new pipe even the visual inspection would show a cat and O2 sensor so only a Corvette enthusiast tech might know the difference.
For simplicity I think I'm going with a new pipe.
For simplicity I think I'm going with a new pipe.
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Some states have emission exemptions for cars with low annual mileage. In PA, any car driven less than 5,000 miles is exempt. You should check out GA's law.
I'm with the other guys. Replace the front Y with one without the pre-cats. PLUS, replace the main cat with a high-flow cat. Random Technologies makes the best one, I think. This is exactly what I am going to do (when I get the time and the money). Freer-flowing mufflers will be added later.
I was asked once, "Why have any cats on it at all?" Because, if I go over the 5,000 mile limit, I'd get tested. And FAIL.
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I'm with the other guys. Replace the front Y with one without the pre-cats. PLUS, replace the main cat with a high-flow cat. Random Technologies makes the best one, I think. This is exactly what I am going to do (when I get the time and the money). Freer-flowing mufflers will be added later.
I was asked once, "Why have any cats on it at all?" Because, if I go over the 5,000 mile limit, I'd get tested. And FAIL.
Mike
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I read somewhere that the EPA approved the removal of the pre- cats. I also went with a true dual exhaust system with no Cats at all. If you have inspections I would go with the front y pipes with no pre - cats. The previous owner had cut the originals out and the welding job was bad. It leaked and dumped exhaust gas into the interior.
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You can beat the precats out with a piece of 1/2 steel pipe, ridgid conduit, not emt. Just bend it up until you get it down in there and start wacking away until you break up the bricks. you need to take the Y pipe out to do it. The y pipe and main cat will come out fairly easy on most since most have a bolt on flange on the back. Just spray the manifold bolts and let them sit a few minutes before you start.
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Yep, I'm going with a new front Y-pipe and a new main cat. I think I saw the difference between random tech and Magnaflow is like $345/140. For this build I really can't justify $345 for a modest L98 through stock manifolds.
I think I'll go with a new Magnaflow paired with a 2 1/2 front Y and hope that let things breathe better than stock.
I think I'll go with a new Magnaflow paired with a 2 1/2 front Y and hope that let things breathe better than stock.
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or, you can buy a front Y pipe off of an 85. They didn't have precats!!! and they have enough patina that they look original. AND, there's no welding because they fit your car
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I'm Atlanta and we do have visual inspection. But how is the average tech running one of these places going to know that this model originally had pre-cats and then the main cat???? I guess if I go with the new pipe even the visual inspection would show a cat and O2 sensor so only a Corvette enthusiast tech might know the difference.
For simplicity I think I'm going with a new pipe.
For simplicity I think I'm going with a new pipe.
