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Old May 27, 2009 | 04:43 PM
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OK -- Here's the deal. '86L/700R4/D36

Between Sunday morning and Monday evening, I put 400 miles on the car. Both before and after that, its been doing this, but it now seems worse.

When we're at like 1100-1200 rpms in gear, the car seems to buck -- like there's drivetrain slop. At highway speeds, I'm getting some vibration, enough to notice and make the ride uncomfortable. It almost kinda feels like the rear end is skipping or bouncing. The bucking has been there for some time now, and until now my solution has been to drop it down a gear to bring the revs up. At last check, the feeling is still there at speed in neutral. I'm getting sick of masking the problem and am now out to fix it.

My first thought is u-joints. I'm quite certain the vibration is coming from the rear end.

Within the last 5,000 miles or so, I have replaced the following:
Transmission, converter, injectors, IAC, ECM, mufflers, rear y-pipe, changed the rear gear oil (added the GM additive ), cap, rotor, wires, and a few other things I'm forgetting. Driveshaft u-joints have been replaced -- at least I paid to have them replaced.

The car did this before the new transmission and converter.

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Old May 27, 2009 | 05:27 PM
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You get no conditions unless the car is moving? 1200 RPM in gear foot on brake no bucking? No strange noises
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Footbraking it at the dragstrip, it will occasionally stumble. I haven't had it at the track in nearly a month, so I haven't really tested it lately.

As for noises, for 2-3 seconds every once in a while it will make a low pitched whine -- like you're making a hard turn at low speeds. Only in neutral or park. Did it in drive once, maybe twice. Thats it.

Again, it did this both before and after the tranny rebuild.

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Just remembered I have an ALDL cable. I'll hook the computer up and take it for a spin and report my findings shortly.
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OK...
Just drove it with the computer datalogging, and then without the computer and ALDL hooked up. Car ran phenomenal with the datalog going. As soon as I disconnected it and restarted, same thing -- bucking at the low RPMs, rougher idle...

Found a few issues while datalogging.
1. Getting on the highway, I got on the throttle. Knock count went from like 10 to 98 very quickly.
2. While cruising on the highway -- at 71 mph, the datalog went to 35mph for 3 segments. O2, BLM, EGR duty and Knock count dropped. After the 3, it went back to 71.
3. BLM and base pulse jump around a fair amount. I already knew it was doing that though -- stock tune. No cam, heads, headers, yada yada.
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Old Jun 4, 2009 | 11:00 AM
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I have the same issue, minus the noise, with my 86. Any solutions? It also sounds like it is winding when it bucks.
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Originally Posted by artmami
I have the same issue, minus the noise, with my 86. Any solutions? It also sounds like it is winding when it bucks.
Never got a reply. Still all ears...
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Anything you get would be much appreciated. I am taking it into my mechanic next week, when we figure it out I will let you know.
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Try a bottle of fuel injector cleaner and a full tank of a different brand of premium gas.
I experience very similar issues, thought it was MAF and various other things - when it started, I filled up with Chevron 94 and it continued - wasn't until I filled with Shell 91 V-Power. I still feel cheated - I always trusted Chevron 94
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Thanks, I have a bottle of fuel injector cleaner ready to go, I am just waiting to drain the gas that is in there now. I hope it is something that simple.
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Try a bottle of fuel injector cleaner and a full tank of a different brand of premium gas.
I experience very similar issues, thought it was MAF and various other things - when it started, I filled up with Chevron 94 and it continued - wasn't until I filled with Shell 91 V-Power. I still feel cheated - I always trusted Chevron 94
I shouldn't have to run injector cleaner. Injectors are new this year. Fresh fuel from the first start up. I ran a few bottles through it last year with the old ones.
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Did/does the ECM have any stored trouble codes? I'm inclined to think MAF issue also....any chance you threw in a heavily oiled K&N filter in there when you did maintenance in the past?
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Haven't checked for codes in a while. Will be sure to check laster today. As for the K&N -- last time I had the filter out was probably a year or two ago -- possible. Will grab some MAF cleaner too.
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