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Old Jun 1, 2009 | 12:15 AM
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I installed Long Tube Headers this weekend on my '87, and desided to go with a Summit Protorque Mini Starter to make my life easier! Well, it didn't turn out that way. I got ready to fire up the engine, and all I could hear was the starter spinning. I took a look under there, and sure enough there is abouta 1/4th inch gap between the starter teeth and the flywheel teeth...

WTF do I do now?

The stater part number is SUM-820323

Is it possible, I installed it upside down? I kind of fit it up both ways and only seemed to bolt up good one way...
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Old Jun 1, 2009 | 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by ride250s
I installed Long Tube Headers this weekend on my '87, and desided to go with a Summit Protorque Mini Starter to make my life easier! Well, it didn't turn out that way. I got ready to fire up the engine, and all I could hear was the starter spinning. I took a look under there, and sure enough there is abouta 1/4th inch gap between the starter teeth and the flywheel teeth...

WTF do I do now?

The stater part number is SUM-820323

Is it possible, I installed it upside down? I kind of fit it up both ways and only seemed to bolt up good one way...
why not just use a gear reduction 90's style vette starter?
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Old Jun 1, 2009 | 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ride250s
there is about a 1/4th inch gap between the starter teeth and the flywheel teeth...
vertical or horizontal gap?
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Old Jun 1, 2009 | 08:21 AM
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Is it possible that you have it set on the 168 tooth flywheel position and you have a 153 tooth flywheel?
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Old Jun 1, 2009 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by bjankuski
Is it possible that you have it set on the 168 tooth flywheel position and you have a 153 tooth flywheel?
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Old Jun 1, 2009 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by jeffp1167
why not just use a gear reduction 90's style vette starter?
The Summit ProTorque starter is a 4:1 gear reduction starter. The OEM 88 and later starters work too, but they usually cost more than the aftermarket starters and you either need a core to return or have to eat the core deposit fee.

The mounting block is adjustable to fit either type of flywheel. Did the instructions show which holes to use for a 153 or 168 tooth flywheel??

You may also have to use the shims to get the final gear mesh right.

Did you have to replace the stock battery cable to get it to bolt up, or is the 87 cable long enough for this starter??

Last edited by c4cruiser; Jun 1, 2009 at 10:33 AM.
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Old Jun 1, 2009 | 11:48 AM
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This is a horizontal gap problem, shims will not help here.

I am not sure how many teeth my flywheel has, I just bought the car in august and everything appeared to be stock.

The instructions were not very good that came with the starter.

And the way I have it mounted now, the stock cables fit! I hope it stays that way haha.
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Old Jun 1, 2009 | 12:31 PM
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I had this starter with TPIS headers, and ended up returning it to Summit specifically because of the routing location of the electrical connections. Keep those cables clear of the headers and cover them, or you'll have lots of problems with this starter. The GMPP one is a nice unit and has its electrical connections in closer proximity to where the stock starter had which might make your routing easier.
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The starter works fine. I've been using the summit brand pro-torque starters for years in my builds.

The OP has it set to the 168 tooth position.

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Originally Posted by c4cruiser
The OEM 88 and later starters work too, but they usually cost more than the aftermarket starters and you either need a core to return or have to eat the core deposit fee.
New OEM Denso style starters on eslay for $80 with 1 yr warranty
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Originally Posted by anesthes
The starter works fine. I've been using the summit brand pro-torque starters for years in my builds.

The OP has it set to the 168 tooth position.

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Old Jun 1, 2009 | 07:57 PM
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Well guys, I tried a few different configurations... i finally got fed up and put the original starter back on. Wasn't sure if I could get it crammed in there without taking the header all theway out, but I did!

Open headers sound so nice

Anyway, you think summit will take the return and pay for shipping??
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 09:00 PM
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Summit might take it back if it's in all original packaging, but I doubt they will pay for shipping. I think you may have the wrong starter for that app. I installed a mini on my 85 the other day and it works better than stock, in my opinion, plus it takes up less space.
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 09:11 PM
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With $20 shipping on Ebay it would be cheaper to go to Autozone. Buy the starter and pay the core fee. Return the old starter later to get your core. I really don't think the guy at the counter earning minimum wage is gonna be able to tell the difference between the two starters.
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