Harmonic Balancer Fell Off Twice
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St. Jude Donor '08
Sounds good. I will get it tore down first and then decide what I am gonna do. Does the pioneer billet steel one work with the stock balancer?
Thanks for all of the help to everyone as well. I can do the work even if it takes a bit of time. I didn't have the car for 2.5 years so I am just a bit anxious. My problems come in with knowing what parts and why to buy and use, but the disassembly and re-assembly I will be fine with.
Thanks for all of the help to everyone as well. I can do the work even if it takes a bit of time. I didn't have the car for 2.5 years so I am just a bit anxious. My problems come in with knowing what parts and why to buy and use, but the disassembly and re-assembly I will be fine with.
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The crankshaft that is in is not keyed, can I still use the ati?
I am guessing when I did my opti a few years ago and pulled that hub once and then with it off again for the rebuild didn't help, my stupid self probably put that crappy washer on that bolt too. Still learning.
I am guessing when I did my opti a few years ago and pulled that hub once and then with it off again for the rebuild didn't help, my stupid self probably put that crappy washer on that bolt too. Still learning.
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The crankshaft that is in is not keyed, can I still use the ati?
I am guessing when I did my opti a few years ago and pulled that hub once and then with it off again for the rebuild didn't help, my stupid self probably put that crappy washer on that bolt too. Still learning.
I am guessing when I did my opti a few years ago and pulled that hub once and then with it off again for the rebuild didn't help, my stupid self probably put that crappy washer on that bolt too. Still learning.
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I haven't had a chance to pull my hub yet, but I called my friend the built the engine and I guess the new crank is not slotted for a key, what options does that leave me with? I am wondering if that stock hub i had on their just did not work because it had been on and off a couple times?
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I've pulled my crank hub more times than I can remember (sounds like a personal issue huh), and it had no ill effect on the fit. I have a feeling that your aftermarket crank has a slightly undersized snout.
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Im home for lunch so i didn't have alot of time to examine, but I just pulled the camber brace and got thcrank bolt out, and can get the hub to seemingly fall of the snout, if I try to get it back on, its very loose but obviously not tightened, but shouldn't it be hard to even press onto the snout? or would it be loose when it just resting on the end? Tonight I will tear it down more and try to get some pics.
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Im home for lunch so i didn't have alot of time to examine, but I just pulled the camber brace and got thcrank bolt out, and can get the hub to seemingly fall of the snout, if I try to get it back on, its very loose but obviously not tightened, but shouldn't it be hard to even press onto the snout? or would it be loose when it just resting on the end? Tonight I will tear it down more and try to get some pics.
Should not move one or off by hand.
As for your crank being unkeyed......LTX uses late SBC crank shaft so the crank should be keyed.......hell even the stock cranks are keyed.
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Im home for lunch so i didn't have alot of time to examine, but I just pulled the camber brace and got thcrank bolt out, and can get the hub to seemingly fall of the snout, if I try to get it back on, its very loose but obviously not tightened, but shouldn't it be hard to even press onto the snout? or would it be loose when it just resting on the end? Tonight I will tear it down more and try to get some pics.
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I still haven't had a chance to get it all the way off. Unbolting the headers still did not give enough clearance so it looks like I would have to pull the engine to use the ATI. My mechanic measured the snout and the press should have been fine. I decided to just order another stock hub, bolt and washer since mine was bent.
The second time I put it on i used a bit longer grade 8 bolt and three washers and they bent too. I am hoping the problem is just a bad hub and using the incorrect washer. If not then its going to have to be a winter project.
The second time I put it on i used a bit longer grade 8 bolt and three washers and they bent too. I am hoping the problem is just a bad hub and using the incorrect washer. If not then its going to have to be a winter project.
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I still haven't had a chance to get it all the way off. Unbolting the headers still did not give enough clearance so it looks like I would have to pull the engine to use the ATI. My mechanic measured the snout and the press should have been fine. I decided to just order another stock hub, bolt and washer since mine was bent.
The second time I put it on i used a bit longer grade 8 bolt and three washers and they bent too. I am hoping the problem is just a bad hub and using the incorrect washer. If not then its going to have to be a winter project.
The second time I put it on i used a bit longer grade 8 bolt and three washers and they bent too. I am hoping the problem is just a bad hub and using the incorrect washer. If not then its going to have to be a winter project.
I installed an ATI hub with engine in car.
So I don't know if I could get ATI damper onto the hub in car.
I used the allthread and nuts used to install this seal to install hub
However, I thought it needed to go in further so I pulled the engine (I was wrong)
But pulling engine is a snap.
I believe if I were in your position, I'd take the hub to my machinist and have him check it for cracks, abnormal wear etc.....and if it checked out satisfactorily, I'd pull the engine since something else would have to be wrong.
I am certain that if I was in your situation, the only way I'd install stock hub without pulling engine and checking things out is if my machinist cut a key way in it to help lock it in place......
However, I've experienced what happens when things don't get completely checked out and I've learned that it is cheaper in the long run to check things out even when the pros are telling you everything is fine.......
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Le Mans Master
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I give up with this damn car. Im ready to sell it as it sits. I wanted to get it running before getting rid of it but this is crazy. Guess I will call around and see who can check it out because I don't have the patience for this thing.
Edit: Just called TPIS, I think I am just going to have them check it out and get the ATI put in. I am already so deep into this things whats another $800.
Edit: Just called TPIS, I think I am just going to have them check it out and get the ATI put in. I am already so deep into this things whats another $800.
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that's the spirit!I just installed a new/rebuilt motor a week or so ago and just yesterday the tranny went ka-boom......my ol' girl is down at the local mom & pop custom tranny shop today getting all new guts shoved into the case for an estimated $,$$$
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I would rather just bring it in and get it done right, I like to work on my cars, and its not that I am not able to probably do it, but screw it, gotta pay to play, its worth the money so I don't have to do it myself. Looking at it I am sure I can get the engine out without problems but I just don't want to deal with it right now.
