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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 10:19 AM
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hi everybody, what is the function of the Knock Sensor ?
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http://everything2.com/title/Knock+sensor
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When the engine pings or knocks, the sensor "hears" the knock and the ECM responds by triggering the EST to retard the timing to stop the knocking.

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okay, and how do I know if the sensor is not working ?
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With the engine idling knock on the knock sensor. The rpms should go down slightly for an instant. If there is no change, then the circuit is not working.
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I have never heard to "knock on the knock sensor". I would be afraid of breaking it. A light rap with a small hammer on the block, head, or other firmly attached engine part should do the trick. The rapping simulates the "knock" the sensor is supposed to detect. If the rpms don't drop in that test, however, the knock sensor isn't the only possible cause.

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Exactly CFI-EFI, be buggered if id want to hit one either.

Hit the block or headers all you like though.

Infact hit what you want, its your car after all
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Old Oct 29, 2009 | 10:34 AM
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If you've got a digital volt meter you can check it without the engine running. Set the DVM to 2V, and insert the positive into the end of the sensor and ground to the chassis. With the key in the on position, the DVM should read something other than zero, now tap on the exhaust or block and you should see the reading jump if it does, it's working, if it doesn't, replace it. (That's how the FSM says to check them for my 93). Since you have a 91, you only have one down near the oil pan gasket.
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Originally Posted by Casethecorvetteman
Exactly CFI-EFI, be buggered if id want to hit one either.

Hit the block or headers all you like though.

Infact hit what you want, its your car after all
It is good to see you posting again, Casey. I believe we both have been away.

The knock sensor installs in the block, water jacket, drain plug hole in the Gen I engines. It replaces the right side drain plug on mine.

My knock sensor was working overtime. it would send knock signals (false knock) when there was no knock.

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Originally Posted by CFI-EFI
I have never heard to "knock on the knock sensor". I would be afraid of breaking it. A light rap with a small hammer on the block, head, or other firmly attached engine part should do the trick. The rapping simulates the "knock" the sensor is supposed to detect. If the rpms don't drop in that test, however, the knock sensor isn't the only possible cause.

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A screwdriver handle will not destroy a knock sensor. If yours is too sensitive, wrap the threads with teflon tape.
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Why climb underneath the car or otherwise distort myself to hit the knock sensor with a screwdriver handle? The hammer and the block are too handy to go to any special effort for nothing.

"My knock sensor was working overtime." Emphasis on the "was". The fix was even easier than removing it and wrapping the threads.

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okay, and how do I know if the sensor is not working ?
My advice is just replace if its original.If original its almost 20 years old & there is sometimes crud that sits in there(from coolant).Plus the sensor is not expensive.Also not a bad to remove so it does not seize in block from never being removed.If sensor is new or fairly new everyone already gave good ways to check sensor.Check for codes & wiring to sensor & connector that goes into knock sensor.Not a bad idea to replace all sensors on vehicle if vehicle has 100,000 miles or more & sensors are original but nobody does this beacause its expensive.
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Originally Posted by CFI-EFI
Why climb underneath the car or otherwise distort myself to hit the knock sensor with a screwdriver handle? The hammer and the block are too handy to go to any special effort for nothing.

"My knock sensor was working overtime." Emphasis on the "was". The fix was even easier than removing it and wrapping the threads.

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I was just making a suggestion to help the op. It really doesn't matter if the knock sensor is tapped with a screwdriver handle (long screwdriver from the engine compartment) or a hammer to the block. The principal is the same. I was also hoping to help you with your oversensitive knock sensor issue and hopefully get your car into the 12s.
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ok, so the knock sensor has contact with the coolant agent ? this mean that after replacing it I need to refill with coolant agent ?

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Originally Posted by ndanl
ok, so the knock sensor has contact with the coolant agent ? this mean that after replacing it I need to refill with coolant agent ?

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Yup. A lot of it, since you're draining the block.
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ok, so the knock sensor has contact with the coolant agent ? this mean that after replacing it I need to refill with coolant agent ?

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Yes, once you've unscrewed the knock sensor, the coolant on that side of the block (and the radiator) will drain out. You will have to refill it. Make sure the motor is cold, drain the radiator first, replace the knock sensor (pan under the sensor because the coolant will be gushing out), replace sensor and coolant and hopefully you will be ok.
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If the coolant is fresh, and you don't want to flush or swap it, be ready with the new one, (and a drain pan) and spin out the old, and quickly spin in the new. You cn plug the hole with your thumb, and then start the sensor by hand. Last time I swapped one, I only lost about a cup of coolant.
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If the coolant is fresh, and you don't want to flush or swap it, be ready with the new one, (and a drain pan) and spin out the old, and quickly spin in the new. You cn plug the hole with your thumb, and then start the sensor by hand. Last time I swapped one, I only lost about a cup of coolant.
And that cup landed in your eyeball! Been there, done that.
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And that cup landed in your eyeball! Been there, done that.
Nah. Mouth and ear. I use the OSHA approved squint, and look away method.
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Nah. Mouth and ear. I use the OSHA approved squint, and look away method.
Pete, the only problem with the look away method is that you can't find the hole to screw the sensor into. Then the stuff runs down your arms and your shirt gets drenched with coolant. Much better to wear swim goggles. Get the NHRA approved ones.
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