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Old Mar 2, 2010 | 04:16 PM
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I recently put a an Accel Super Ram on my 90. It ran great for a a week or two and then started having issues after my buddie checked the fuel pressure at the rail. It has a bad hesitation at low rpms. If you stomp on the pedal it sometimes backfires in the intake.

We replaced the fuel pump and injectors. New plugs and wires. New O2 sensor. Checked for vacuum leaks, couldnt find any. No CEL. No codes.

I'm hoping I dont have to remove the intake and install it again. Wasnt a very fun process.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Steve
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Old Mar 2, 2010 | 08:26 PM
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Sounds like a fuel pressure issue. What's the reading?
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 06:19 AM
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I dont remember exactly what the numbers were, but when I installed the intake I also installed an adjustable fuel pressure reg from TPIS. I set the reg to what TPIS recommended.

I will try to check it again this weekend. What would you recommend setting the pressure at?

Thanks!
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Do you have a custom tune for the superrram? To me it sounds like you need more tip in fuel programmed into the chip.
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by splehigh
Hello,

I recently put a an Accel Super Ram on my 90. It ran great for a a week or two and then started having issues after my buddie checked the fuel pressure at the rail. It has a bad hesitation at low rpms. If you stomp on the pedal it sometimes backfires in the intake.

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Well since you state it was fine until fuel pressure was checked. I would think you should go over everything involved with that process. As something must have been broken when he checked it. Maybe the valve is messed up.
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 01:17 PM
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That is a good point. Is it possible that the schrader valve is restricting fuel flow? It seems highly unlikely. Isnt it similar to a valve stem? One would think that it would be leaking fuel if it was defective since the fuel pump is pushing the fuel into the fuel rail.

I could be wrong though. lol
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Originally Posted by bjankuski
Do you have a custom tune for the superrram? To me it sounds like you need more tip in fuel programmed into the chip.
I did not see an answer to this question? A backfire in the intake indicates that it is lean. Either you have a vacuum leak, an undefined mechanical issue that is causing it to go lean, or the chip needs adjustment.

What is the fuel pressure?
Do you have a custom chip or stock chip?
Did you check for vacuum leaks?
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Leave it at the stock setting, what is it with guys wanting to keep cranking the pressure up to the moon, it isnt doing any good at all.
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I don't know, sounds to me like something is not done right.
I like your stats though, in fact I am surprised you need help with such a simple problem being here so much

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Originally Posted by pologreen1
I don't know, sounds to me like something is not done right.
I like your stats though, in fact I am surprised you need help with such a simple problem being here so much

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Wow! Those stats are way off. I've only been on here a couple times.

Thanks for bringing that to my attention.
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Originally Posted by bjankuski
I did not see an answer to this question? A backfire in the intake indicates that it is lean. Either you have a vacuum leak, an undefined mechanical issue that is causing it to go lean, or the chip needs adjustment.

What is the fuel pressure?
Do you have a custom chip or stock chip?
Did you check for vacuum leaks?
The car has never had a custom tune. As far as I know the computer is stock. When I checked the fule pressure it was normal, but I dont remember what the numbers were. I will check it again and post the numbers. Thanks

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Leave it at the stock setting, what is it with guys wanting to keep cranking the pressure up to the moon, it isnt doing any good at all.
I know its not cranked way up. Even I know that you can ruin your injectors doing that.
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If your fuel pressure is ok, I would suspect a vac. leak. You say it ran well for awile, maybe check all intake bolts and gaskets. Good luck!
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[QUOTE=splehigh;1573345285]The car has never had a custom tune. As far as I know the computer is stock. When I checked the fule pressure it was normal, but I dont remember what the numbers were. I will check it again and post the numbers. Thanks

You will need a custom tune to fix the problem. The superram requires significant amounts of tip in fuel added to prevent a lean pop on acceleration.

I doubt you have a vacuum leak. The speed density computer system works on intake vacuum and a vacuum leak would show up as a high idle condition but the mixture would still be ok. The added air would be compansated for by the MAP sensor and the air fuel ratio would still be correct. On a MAS air car a vacuum leak could cause a lean pop but the chances are less on a speed density car.
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[QUOTE=bjankuski;1573345833]
Originally Posted by splehigh
The car has never had a custom tune. As far as I know the computer is stock. When I checked the fule pressure it was normal, but I dont remember what the numbers were. I will check it again and post the numbers. Thanks

You will need a custom tune to fix the problem. The superram requires significant amounts of tip in fuel added to prevent a lean pop on acceleration.

I doubt you have a vacuum leak. The speed density computer system works on intake vacuum and a vacuum leak would show up as a high idle condition but the mixture would still be ok. The added air would be compansated for by the MAP sensor and the air fuel ratio would still be correct. On a MAS air car a vacuum leak could cause a lean pop but the chances are less on a speed density car.
You need a custom tune.
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It is normal for them to have a pumpshot type hesitation but you should
have noticed it right away. Seeing how it is a problem that has shown
up it is likely not something that can be fixed with a tune unless if
you disconnect the battery the problem goes away again.


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Old Mar 8, 2010 | 06:38 PM
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I have ran my built 355 on the stock 90 chip a lot and never had backfires or hesitation.
I smog my 90 on the stock chip everytime. it would not pass on the rollers with this nonsense.

did you guys move the timming when messing with the shrader valve.
discoonect the map sensor?
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Old Mar 8, 2010 | 08:19 PM
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I have a Super Ram on my 90 IROC. You did everything but check the fuel filter. Take it off and try blowing through it.
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Old Mar 8, 2010 | 11:18 PM
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I'm also voting for timing, it can be bitch
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