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Old Sep 8, 2010 | 08:40 AM
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I'm about to replace the two knock sensors removed for a cooling system flush and radiator replacement on my '94. (Geez, there was something like MUD in there! And I'm still soaking the surge tank to get out the residual. If anybody has any tips on something that dissolves that old anti-freeze sediment let me know.)

But my main question is, what do you guys use on the knock sensors when replacing them -- the old ones, I mean, not new ones: teflon tape? pipe dope? thread lock?

The old ones had a red substance on the threads, and from the way they came off I'm inclined to think it was some kind of thread lock stuff.
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I used teflon paste for sealer.

I used Purple Power degreaser to remove sediment in the overflow tank.

Seems like I remember reading that mud can be an indication of oil seeping past your headgaskets into the antifreeze.
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Seems like I remember reading that mud can be an indication of oil seeping past your headgaskets into the antifreeze.
I can see that, but this sediment has no hint of oiliness or any smell that might indicate an oil leak. When exposed to air it dries to a powder very quickly. It looks to me more like Bars-Leak or some other additive that has settled out of the coolant. Or maybe the factory Dex-Cool does that over time.

Thanks for the cleaning tip. I suppose if degreaser works almost any detergent should do the trick. That surge tank has a plastic backflow valve, I think, so I don't want to use anything too harsh.
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I believe that's a one wire sensor and needs to get grounded to the block so the red material on the threads is probably anti-galling compound. Use a compound that isn't going to coat the threads so much. Try just anti-seize. Medium or low strength thread lock may work well too. If you have to use thread sealant to stop it from leaking, apply the sealant on the last threads that are in the block. Not all the threads or the first threads. Make sure to clean any sludge off the sensor!

Do not over torque the sensor!!! The torque valve is specific to set how sensitive the sensor is.

Cleaning a reservoir is pretty easy. Put some shot gun shot in there and shake it! Or marbles etc etc. The material coating you are seeing may be anti-corrosion compounds in the coolant!
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Old Sep 8, 2010 | 10:35 AM
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My experience with sealing knock sensors is that you should use the liquid teflon very sparingly or the sensors won't work properly and code 43 will be set.
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The orange coating that comes on the new replacement sensor is all you need. If you add liquid teflon or plumber's tape, you risk negatively effecting the sensor's ability to detect (and most importantly) retard spark knock.

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with all the above.

The sensor's threaded portion is made of brass so you really don't need much if any "sealing" compound on that since the thing will conform with a little tension on the threads.
The threads of the sensor do ground the sensor so if you apply teflon tape you run the possibility of insulating the grounding portion of the circuit which will throw a code as mentioned above.

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Teflon paste, small amount....WW
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Originally Posted by onedef92
The orange coating that comes on the new replacement sensor is all you need. If you add liquid teflon or plumber's tape, you risk negatively effecting the sensor's ability to detect (and most importantly) retard spark knock.
I agree, for new sensors. I believe the OP was asking about used ones, after draining the block.
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Originally Posted by sailorsteve
I agree, for new sensors. I believe the OP was asking about used ones, after draining the block.
As stated earlier, the sensor's threaded portion is made of brass so you really don't need much if any "sealing" compound on that since the thing will conform with a little tension on the threads.

I would try it without any sealing compound first, then if a leak does occur, go the sealing compound route (applied very sparingly). Be sure and torque the sensor in to FSM specs.
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