OK. Say you see it yourself. What is your qualification for making a judgment? Are you qualified to do research? Do you have a proper research facility to do it? In my case, it is neither. I rely on the tests you provide. If it does what you say it does, show me. Prove it. Send your stuff to an accredited laboratory using commonly accepted testing methods and have them send you back a certified copy of the results. Post it for all to see. After all, if what you say is what it is, you have no fear that I can call up the laboratory to verify the data. When I sold animal feed, we had a Certificate of Analysis. It had the laboratory's name, batch number, etc, etc. If you didn't believe me, you could call the lab that did the testing. When you rely on testimonials of people that don't really know much about testing items, IMO, that makes you suspect immediately. Sorry, YOU sell a product, the onus is on YOU to prove it works.

True. Did you see the condition of the motors before their test? Was one set to run richer than the other? Enzyte, Extenze, RXBull and what not have tons of testimonials and hokey experiments that prove their product works. Not sure I believe them since they can't show it done at a lab that is accredited.

 

Oh boy... we got one of "those" people.... if it didn't happen in a lab it doesn't exist. I love those people. They make life more entertaining. You know, Global warming was created much the same way. Sitting in a lab, making stuff up to get grant money.... I don't really trust much that comes from labs personally.

I used a can of seafoam in the tank this tank full since the car had been sitting most of the summer. It works a little better than Sta-Bil for getting old gas out and getting a little of the varnish off the injectors. That's all I expected from it and that is fine with me.

 

I gotta comment on this particular "zing" that is directed at me, as well.
First, I never said that it won't work for the particular demonstration that you witnessed, BUT (and there a many "buts" w/in the context of this thread, so get ready...)
1. The OP asked about pouring it in his TB, Gas tank, and crank case(!). Only one of those places has any chance of accomplishing what he wants (cleaning injectors) and that is in the gas tank. So the demonstration that you witnessed, is totally irrelevant and meaningless to the OP and his mission.
2. I don't doubt that Seafoam cleaned a combustion chamber, when fed into the intake of a warm, running engine; it will boil and scour w/the same ferrocity as other liquids, and probably accomplish about the same thing. BUT (again), who cares? That shiney clean piston that you saw...that makes you "feel" all good about your engine's internals...how long do you suppose it's going to stay like that? Probably about 10 minutes of running before it's "all gunked up with carbon buildup" -again. And that's O.K. It ain't gonna hurt anything. EXCESSIVE carbon build up (caused by burning oil and/or overly rich running) can sometimes become problematic as it raises compression and creates glowing "hot spots" that can cause detonation...but that isn't the case for the OP, and it's extremely rare in any modern EFI engine. Furthermore and once again, there is another "root cause" and a bottle of elixer ain't gonna fix it.
3. Water can do the same thing for ~$10 less.

There are the "buts" that the savvy shopper should know about.

 

When you make a product, how did you test if it works? If you don't have test results to show, either you didn't test or you tested and it doesn't say what you want it to say so you bury the tests. Global Warming is a little different. They came out with a theory and haven't done any real testing. Just SWAGs. Sorry, I have been bitten by enough snake oil vendors to know that they are there to part you from your money like a horny 18yo trying to part the thighs of the prom queen.

People keep wanting a cheap solution. There is a reason it is cheap. Usually it is because it isn't as effective. Even if you do clean the varnish some, you don't know how much is done. You can't clean a gym in the dark and know that it is done right. I would and will this winter, take my injectors out for FIC to get it done RIGHT. They will measure the flow volume and check spray pattern. None of this "I think" crap.

 

Thanks Mr Obvious. Hence the reason I said "little". Old gas is never a good thing to have in the tank, and it's that great running through the car either.

My "solution" is for getting the old gas out of the tankf with a minimal amount of long term issues. I too am planning on a winter tear down to change seals, likely injectors, regulator and gaskets.

I've used enough fuel system treatments over the years through my TBI cars/trucks to realize what works and what doesn't. Berryman's used to offer a really potent F/I cleaner. Can't remember the exact stuff it was (been too long). But it helped clean out the spray pattern on older clogged injectors better than anythign else I'd used.

 

I was talking about the cleaning of varnish in the injectors. Old gas is not a good thing.

Either it was BFG or Berryman but we squandered money on it a long time ago. Cured a little hesitation according to the wife-o-meter. Injector testing didn't agree it works though. This was in tech school so we had a fuel tester there. Tested before the snake oil went in and after. Nothing significant in the change.

 

Use BG 44K, that stuff works great. Its $22 bucks a can for a reason. Do some research on the stuff!

 

Reason usually so it is cheap enough for you to part with your money and not have to think too much about it and helps the placebo effect.

Is any research done on the stuff or is it just anecdotal or SOTP dyno and testimonials?

 

This thread is getting entertaining. Too bad Seafoam doesn't work on bunched up undies.

 

 

It can.... you just have to apply it right.

 

About as much proof of it doing that as anything else so why not?

 

Your right Bob, this is getting ridiculous..I refuse to get caught up in this pissing match. I know what I saw, and I can relay the results honestly when someone asks a question about Seafoam, because I did see the results myself. Im not interested in Chemistry or Analyzing anything, you want to take it that far, go ahead, you call the company. Im just satified to use a good product that I know works..Nuf said.....WW

 

Do you just try to be an ***? Seriously? I mean, if being a dick were a competitive sport, you are definately in place to score a trophy.

 

I seafoamed my 88' vette with 135k miles about a year ago. I didn't put it in the oil though. it was fun, and it smoothed out my idle a bit. I've run it through multiple cars with no issues but a smoother idle. If you do use it in the oil, you have to change it after 2-300 though. it thins out your oil.

 

 

You got that right..From now on I will just tell the people to use the search function.....WW

 

BTDT. Companies give me the testimonials and what not. That or "It's secret".

 

Sorry if I am not so simple minded that I get caught by those charlatans or failed politicians and I say so. Ask yourself why they won't publish test results by a certified laboratory. It's be a great advertisement. So, tells me that either you didn't do any real work and just tossed something together and proclaimed it works or you see that the results are not to your liking and won't show them. Why go thru all the hassle when people are gullible enough to believe anything you say? As my math teachers used to say "No working, no credit".

 

FWIW...

A few years back I choked some seafoam down the brake booster vacuum line on a 1990 Supra (7M non turbo). I removed the intake cover plate prior to and after use, and there was a significant decrease in the amount of carbon in there.

and also FWIW that carbon is now likely jammed in the cats.

P.S. FWIW, similar results can be seen with plain water. And yes, I have seen it done with similar results with water.