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I bought some seafoam and have a couple quick ones.
1/3 into brake booster
1/3 into OIL?
1/3 into gas
?? is that right?
If I put it in the oil am I supposed to let it idle for a bit with some revs THEN Change the oil then take it for a drive? or change the oil after the drive?
it says " cleans engine, gets rid of carbon build up, cleans injectors" ect..I see people all over youtube putting it in their cars. and even the Navy uses it in the helicopters. I dont think there is a reason to be mean about it. If you dont like seafoam just say you dont like it and you dont think I should use it. Anyone else use it and like it?
it says " cleans engine, gets rid of carbon build up, cleans injectors" ect..I see people all over youtube putting it in their cars. and even the Navy uses it in the helicopters. I dont think there is a reason to be mean about it. If you dont like seafoam just say you dont like it and you dont think I should use it. Anyone else use it and like it?
It can say anything. What it lacks is documented proof. So, as my math teachers used to say, no working, no points. How do you know it does what it says? Has anyone done any proper scientific testing to show it does? If not, why? What does the navy use it for exactly? What fuel is it running? Do we run the similarly designed engines?
Yes, I don't think you should use it for that purpose. For stabilizing fuel, maybe. I do not believe in those "cleaners in a can" because nobody has ever documented it.
it says " cleans engine, gets rid of carbon build up, cleans injectors" ect..I see people all over youtube putting it in their cars. I dont think there is a reason to be mean about it. If you dont like seafoam just say you dont like it and you dont think I should use it. Anyone else use it and like it?
I don't like seafoam. But nothing about my post was "mean". I'm trying to HELP you, and if you think that is beaing mean....I'm sorry for you.
What are they symptoms that you are trying to fix?
Seafoam is Naptha, "Sewing machine oil" and IPA. None of those things are chemicals that I would chose to dump into my engine...anywhere. EACH of those items serves a purpose, and I may chose ONE of those for something -as a solution to some issue...but I absolutely would not dump an un known "elixer" into my motor arbitrarily, or b/c the can says that I should w/o telling me why....or b/c someone on Youtube did it.
What are you trying to accomplish?
P.S. There are enough things that "people do on Youtube" to convince me that just b/c you see it on YT, doesn't mean that it's "right".
Last edited by Tom400CFI; Sep 9, 2010 at 06:11 PM.
Well I have a 1994 6 spd with 189,000 miles. I am planning on getting new injectors to renew what I can without really digging deep into the engine. But before I get them I was planning on just trying some stuff ( canned wishes).. I must have taken what you sid the wrong way I am sorry. I am just really trying to see if this stuff does ANYTHING. I have used gas cleaners ect.. Who knows I just really wanted to see what people thought
I once tried to use some extra seafoam to clean an IAC valve off the vehicle. It didn't work terribly well. Got some crap off, but generic degreaser (actually simple green for bikes) was much better, and less toxic to boot!
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Well I have a 1994 6 spd with 189,000 miles. I am planning on getting new injectors to renew what I can without really digging deep into the engine. But before I get them I was planning on just trying some stuff ( canned wishes).. I must have taken what you sid the wrong way I am sorry. I am just really trying to see if this stuff does ANYTHING. I have used gas cleaners ect.. Who knows I just really wanted to see what people thought
Excellent. Now we're getting somewhere! You want to clean your injectors. If you are keen on using Seafoam for that, then dumping it in your gastank and running that tankful through would give the most likely results. Seafoam in your engine oil or down your intake won't do anything for cleaning the injectors. So you can try it in your gasoline.
HOWEVER, know that all gasoline already has detergent in it (all grades, all brands as it's govn't mandated) for the purpose of cleaning injectors -or keeping them clean. If you REALLY want to clean the injectors, I would use a specifc injector cleaner product, as directed on that product's label. But you probably won't hurt anything by dumping seafoam into your tank.
Last edited by Tom400CFI; Sep 9, 2010 at 06:18 PM.
Well I have a 1994 6 spd with 189,000 miles. I am planning on getting new injectors to renew what I can without really digging deep into the engine. But before I get them I was planning on just trying some stuff ( canned wishes).. I must have taken what you sid the wrong way I am sorry. I am just really trying to see if this stuff does ANYTHING. I have used gas cleaners ect.. Who knows I just really wanted to see what people thought
It does something. Separates a fool from his money. It is part of the additive market that sells stuff that it refuses to prove. IF they could prove it works in an accredited laboratory using commonly accepted testing methods, you'd see it. That is why the rely on anecdotal "evidence", testimonials from people who feel something in the SOTP dyno and what not.
I don't like seafoam. But nothing about my post was "mean". I'm trying to HELP you, and if you think that is beaing mean....I'm sorry for you.
What are they symptoms that you are trying to fix?
Seafoam is Naptha, "Sewing machine oil" and IPA. None of those things are chemicals that I would chose to dump into my engine...anywhere. EACH of those items serves a purpose, and I may chose ONE of those for something -as a solution to some issue...but I absolutely would not dump an un known "elixer" into my motor arbitrarily, or b/c the can says that I should w/o telling me why....or b/c someone on Youtube did it.
What are you trying to accomplish?
P.S. There are enough things that "people do on Youtube" to convince me that just b/c you see it on YT, doesn't mean that it's "right".
GM sells a Top Engine Cleaner which is similar to Seafoam. Is that a no no too?
I absolutely would not dump an un known "elixer" into my motor arbitrarily, or b/c the can says that I should w/o telling me why....or b/c someone on Youtube did it.
What are you trying to accomplish?
GM top end cleaner has a SPECIFIC purpose, and SPECIFIC directions. It's an engineered product (though a glass of water will accomplish the same thing for far less money). Seafoam is a "cure-all in a can" of unknown (or hard to find) ingredients. No different than Marvel mystery Oil, Restore, Slick 50, et al.
For people who supposedly "care" about their cars as much as folks here claim to, I find it strange how often people pour an unknown into through, their engine. What I want to do is help diagnose the actual issue, and apply the PROPER method for repair. If you (joshwilson) want to pour unknown junk down your motor....go for it.
Last edited by Tom400CFI; Sep 9, 2010 at 06:32 PM.
GM sells a Top Engine Cleaner which is similar to Seafoam.
Oh, and by the way:
GM top end cleaner :
2 Butoxyethanol = 20%
4-METHYL-2-PENTANOL = 5%
9-OCTADECENDIC ACID = 15%
NAPHTHA = 50%
Other Non Hazardous = 10%
If you put in the oil, drive for about 150-200 miles and change oil and filter. I would suggest changing again after another 200. However, if the oil has been changed regularly, and if it's running well at 189K, it probably has, there really shouldn't be any need for this. Especially if synthetic oil is used.
If you are having clogged injector issues, it's worth a try. As I understand it, it poses less danger to older injectors than many of the other cleaners out there. But if your not experiencing clogging issues, why bother?
As far as the intake. The reason is to supposedly clean carbon build up from the chamber. I'm not really sold on this aspect of it as I don't know what the real benefit would be. Perhaps someone with some more tech knowledge will chime in and explain that one.
BTW ingredients listed on can of Seafoam "Pet. Distillate (cas 64742-49-0); Pet. Oil (cas 64742-54-7); 2-Propanol (cas 67-63-0) Yes, I have a can. Tried some time ago in all three applications. Noticed that nothing bad happened as a result, also observed no positive benefit either.
Last edited by lt4obsesses; Sep 10, 2010 at 02:03 AM.
GM top end cleaner has a SPECIFIC purpose, and SPECIFIC directions. It's an engineered product (though a glass of water will accomplish the same thing for far less money). Seafoam is a "cure-all in a can" of unknown (or hard to find) ingredients. No different than Marvel mystery Oil, Restore, Slick 50, et al.
For people who supposedly "care" about their cars as much as folks here claim to, I find it strange how often people pour an unknown into through, their engine. What I want to do is help diagnose the actual issue, and apply the PROPER method for repair. If you (joshwilson) want to pour unknown junk down your motor....go for it.
The Seafoam issue has been beat to death. I have posted on it many times so now I just copy and paste old comments that I have posted. Below is my take on Seafoam,I have seen first hand that it works (period)......WW
First off, I don't remember what they said was in Seafoam. I have however seen 2 outboard engines that ran side by side with over 150 hrs, one treated with Seafoam, and 1 with no Seafoam, both torn down during a Bassmasters tourament I was fishing..The one with the Seafoam had spotlessly clean pistons, valves, (4 stroke Honda engines)and combustion chambers, the other was all gunked up with carbon buildup..I won't claim something works if I don't see it myself, and the proof that this stuff works was right in front of me.. To me claiming something is (snake oil) without using it, is as bad as claiming something works without seeing it yourself...WW
PS. Also it wasn't a little Seafoam demo...There were over 5,000 folks at that tournament weight in that saw the same thing I did.....WW
Thank you Tom water is best maybe people still want to by snake oil and stuff but water is cheaper and works a lot better. WW I am not doubting what you saw but who was conducting the test who regulated the test the engine temps fuel and oil grade rpms ran engine load ect.
Like Tom said all fuel has mandated cleaners but one of the biggest things they are all madated to be is oxygenated The oxygen moducales explode in the fuel system from the tank threw the lines injectors and top of cyl. There is no better cleaner then this. I will never forget all the problems this caused when it first became mandated. fuel system failing right and left because of the cleaning action and all the years of dirt grime ect it was braking loose. cars, boats, just about anything that ran on fuel was effected.
My opinion If you have a carbon problem today you need to adress the problem with your engine cause it is not in the fuel
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