Injector installation problem
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Drifting
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Injector installation problem
Started the removal of my injectors last night. got the fuel rail off after pulling the pump fuse and letting the car die. Pulled a couple of injectors out and a storm came rolling in real fast so I laid the fuel rail back onto the manifold and closed the car up for the night. Went out there this afternoon and there is gas under my car, lots of it. Finished installing the injectors and went to start it and the car wont crank and it started pushing fluid out of the oil dipstick. It is possible that the fuel kept pulling out of the tank all night and filled the crank case because it is full of something and I noticed fuel in runners on the manifold.
Drifting
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St. Jude Donor '10
I have ended up with a few sumps full of fuel even with all my injectors in. I have since replaced the injectors and am hoping to have solved the issue.
The fuel will continue to run into the fuel rail from both the feed and return lines till the tank is almost empty. I think it would be getting into the manifold and sump from the feed line only as the fuel pressure regulator should stop reverse flow back into the injector side of the fuel rail.
Check your dipstick level.
Also make sure you plug your fuel lines while you have the fuel rail off. I used a length of rubber fuel line and plugged one end into the feed line and the other into the return line.
The fuel will continue to run into the fuel rail from both the feed and return lines till the tank is almost empty. I think it would be getting into the manifold and sump from the feed line only as the fuel pressure regulator should stop reverse flow back into the injector side of the fuel rail.
Check your dipstick level.
Also make sure you plug your fuel lines while you have the fuel rail off. I used a length of rubber fuel line and plugged one end into the feed line and the other into the return line.
Last edited by Lemme; Sep 11, 2010 at 10:33 PM.
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Do not try and start the car until you pull the plugs or you will bend a rod! Be sure that all the fuel under the car is gone....air out the garage...please no sparks!!
You should have disconnected the fuel line from the rail and capped the line so it would not leak.
I would drain the oil
to dump the fuel from the oil pan. You should also pull the plugs to see if there is fuel in the cylinders.
If you have fuel in the cylinders, you have issues. You need to get the fuel out of each cylinder. When they are empty, and aired out....before putting the plugs back in ...I would squirt some oil in each cylinder and turn the engine over by hand to get some oil on the walls before starting.
You should have disconnected the fuel line from the rail and capped the line so it would not leak.
I would drain the oil
to dump the fuel from the oil pan. You should also pull the plugs to see if there is fuel in the cylinders.If you have fuel in the cylinders, you have issues. You need to get the fuel out of each cylinder. When they are empty, and aired out....before putting the plugs back in ...I would squirt some oil in each cylinder and turn the engine over by hand to get some oil on the walls before starting.
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Drifting
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St. Jude Donor '10
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Got it started. Good oil pressure. Smoked like a bandit for at least an hour. Started checking into it and oil had made it all the way out of the throttle body. I have been shooting throttle body cleaner in there and it has ran better and smoked less each time. Still has good oil pressure but the gauges are erratic, tach bounces around and my coolant temp is stuck at 142 degrees. Continuously getting a c12 h27 and h15 codes that I cant seem to get rid of. I drove it around town and when I drove it easy, it did not smoke at all. Took it out and ran it hard and it starts to smoke again. If I let it sit and give the throttle body and intake a good cleaning, it will start back up and not smoke again. It doesnt look good.
Drifting
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St. Jude Donor '10
Got it started. Good oil pressure. Smoked like a bandit for at least an hour. Started checking into it and oil had made it all the way out of the throttle body. I have been shooting throttle body cleaner in there and it has ran better and smoked less each time. Still has good oil pressure but the gauges are erratic, tach bounces around and my coolant temp is stuck at 142 degrees. Continuously getting a c12 h27 and h15 codes that I cant seem to get rid of. I drove it around town and when I drove it easy, it did not smoke at all. Took it out and ran it hard and it starts to smoke again. If I let it sit and give the throttle body and intake a good cleaning, it will start back up and not smoke again. It doesnt look good.
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Drifting
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Yes. Oil made it all the way out of the throttle body and I think the exhaust is full of fluid to as she is bellowing out smoke and I can hear a crackling in the exhaust like something is frying in there. There is oil all throughout the engine. I have been cleaning the throttle body and manifold all the time and it does have residue in it every time I clean it. It smokes less and less so I am hoping it just needs to burn off all the fluids that made to where they should not have been as I drained 12 quarts out of the engine. I have never done anything this stupid to one of my cars before, what a lesson this is.
Drifting
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St. Jude Donor '10
I just had the heads and exhaust done when it happened to me. Very annoying to run all that oil through and clog it all up. Best thing I think is to run the engine nice and hot on a long run to burn it off. I changed out the plugs and filter as well.
What I found was the oil/fuel mix was getting sucked into the manifold through the pcv system.
The new injectors really make a difference so hopefully you will soon enjoy soon.
What I found was the oil/fuel mix was getting sucked into the manifold through the pcv system.
The new injectors really make a difference so hopefully you will soon enjoy soon.
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Stupid *** me took a couple of injectors out and it started pouring rain so I laid the fuel rail back down on the manifold and closed the hood. Did not get back to it until the next afternoon and gas had pushed up out of the tank and ran out of the ports that had no injectors and filled the engine with gas. What a mess. Tonight it ran great, no smoking, good oil pressure until I started getting on it and it started missing violently and the gauges went crazy. Let it cool down for a while and it was normal again. Ugh. I changed the coil to an msd unit I picked up at autozone, could it be frying my ICM ?