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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 05:13 PM
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Default Propper torque spec for wheel (spindle) nut?

I have an 88 that needs a new rear wheel bearing on the drivers side. A November 09 Corvette Enthusiast C4 real wheel bearing repair article says "Early service manuals say torque this nut to 81 lbs-ft, but later manuals have upped that spec to the recommended 164 lbs-ft. That's a lot of torque" I called the local chevy dealership and they said 100 lbs-ft.

What's the proper amount to torque these?

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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 06:54 PM
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164 ft lbs is what it says in my 89 manual and is what I use, but I believe it has been revised up to around 200 ft lbs if my memory serves me correctly.. Someone else needs to verify this......WW

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Originally Posted by WW7
164 ft lbs is what it says in my 89 manual and is what I use, but I believe it has been revised up to 200 ft lbs if my memory serves me correctly.. Someone else needs to verify this......WW
My '86 manual also says 164 ft lbs
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 07:17 PM
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Big socket and leaning into a big cheater bar (piece of pipe) called it a day. No its not correct
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Thanks for the info. That's a lot of torque! I'm not good at diagnosing things, but not bad at fixing things that aren't to complex.

So hears the deal. I took the car into a shop recently for an oil change and had them look at this because the car was making a clicking sound from the rear left wheel. The guy said the wheel nut was loose, he tightened it and that I am going to need a wheel bearing in the near future. Now after about two weeks I am getting the clicking noise again and I'm not sure if he didn't torque it enough and it has loosened again or if there is another problem.

Would a loose spindle nut cause the bearing to go bad? Also, I've read some people that put lube on the threads before putting the nut on and some people that put locktite on, which is right?

Thanks for the help, it is much appreciated.
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I've done it twice, it's 164 ft-lbs
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Old Sep 14, 2010 | 01:09 AM
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It's 183-192 ft lbs for the wheel bearing nut - which is the revised torque per the GM service bulletin - it was never 81 ft lbs.

Wheel lug nuts are 100 ft lbs and that applies to most GM cars, not just the C4s
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I have 200lbs on mine, it ain't coming loose anytime soon.
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200 here as well. You can check how the diff is doing by trying to torque the nut without the brake on. Break away torque was 110 ft/lbs on mine which is good. If you can turn the diff down around 70 plan to rebuild it (if you want posi traction!).
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You guys are great, I wish I could get as much help on cadillacforums.

If the guy at the shop torqued it correctly what would cause it to come loose so quickly and do I need to worry about bearing damage?

Thanks again.
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Originally Posted by sbrunkow
You guys are great, I wish I could get as much help on cadillacforums.

If the guy at the shop torqued it correctly what would cause it to come loose so quickly and do I need to worry about bearing damage?

Thanks again.
Is the cover with the cotter key installed? It can loosen a little with the key installed but not super lots. I use thread locker on just about everything. That is the purple locktite I believe, light hold, don't use red! If it was installed correctly I suppose runout on the rotor or uneven torque on the lugs could make it loosen.
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Yes, the pin and all is there. Seems odd that after only a couple of weeks it would be making the clicking sound. He said he torqued it to spec, but didn't remember the amount.
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Did he replace the teflon washer behind it? (clicking sound)
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I torqued mine to 180 ft/lbs. I have heard if the torque is on there too tight, then that could cause the bearings to wear.

If the spindle nut keeps coming loose. Sounds like you need a new bearing, as when the bearing goes. It is known to cause the nut to keep backing off. You sure don't want your wheel to fall off going down the road.
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Originally Posted by cuisinartvette
Did he replace the teflon washer behind it? (clicking sound)
This may be the cause of your clicking sound.
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Originally Posted by cuisinartvette
Did he replace the teflon washer behind it? (clicking sound)
I don't know, but I don't think so. Can you give me more information about this?

Originally Posted by joshwilson3
I torqued mine to 180 ft/lbs. I have heard if the torque is on there too tight, then that could cause the bearings to wear.

If the spindle nut keeps coming loose. Sounds like you need a new bearing, as when the bearing goes. It is known to cause the nut to keep backing off. You sure don't want your wheel to fall off going down the road.
No, wheel coming off would not be a good thing.
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Originally Posted by sbrunkow
I don't know, but I don't think so. Can you give me more information about this?



No, wheel coming off would not be a good thing.
He didn't replace the washer. In order to do that, you either have to pull the hub, or pull the halfshaft and spindle.

If you replace the hub, go ahead and replace the washer. It is $7 at the dealer. The part people like to lube is the spindle shaft that sits inside the bearing. They put alot of antisieze on spindle shaft. Some also put antisieze on the washer as well.

Also, when I put the nut retainer on. I made sure it was tight. It took a couple of tries with redoing the cotter pin as the retainer liked to stay loose. But I eventually figured out a way to get the cotter pin on there to keep the retainer tight. I figured a loose retainer would give the nut some play to start backing off. But when you have a problem of the nut backing off with the retainer in place, it usually is because the hub is bad.
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Originally Posted by sbrunkow
I don't know, but I don't think so. Can you give me more information about this?

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-t...e-washers.html

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/1555878423-post29.html
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Originally Posted by joshwilson3
I torqued mine to 180 ft/lbs. I have heard if the torque is on there too tight, then that could cause the bearings to wear.

If the spindle nut keeps coming loose. Sounds like you need a new bearing, as when the bearing goes. It is known to cause the nut to keep backing off. You sure don't want your wheel to fall off going down the road.
You are not loading the bearing when applying the torque, that would be true for a tapered bearing on a Ford Pinto.
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Originally Posted by AGENT 86
You are not loading the bearing when applying the torque, that would be true for a tapered bearing on a Ford Pinto.
So, you can't torque it too tight that would cause the bearing to wear? I had read somewhere of that. But I don't know alot about it.
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