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Old Nov 16, 2010 | 11:08 PM
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I'm somewhat not in the know on camshafts and whatnot, but I have a general idea on what I'm looking for.

My question concerns cam timing, but before I go any further this is what I have:

Comp Cams 12-432-8

110° Lobe-Center Angle, 106° Intake Centerline, 230° Duration @ .050" Int., 236° Duration @ .050" Ex., .510" Lift Int., .520" Lift Ex

Assume supporting mods (intake, exhaust, stock alum. heads) for this motor (350CI) are installed. This is a carb'd car.

Obviosly I will have to degree in this cam as will any other. My timing set has an option of -4°, 0°, +4° timing marks on it.

The car is going to be a track only car, not subjected to any kind of inspection except a tech inspection.

Should I advance or retard the cam, or install it straight up.

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Old Nov 17, 2010 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Black89Z51
I'm somewhat not in the know on camshafts and whatnot, but I have a general idea on what I'm looking for.

My question concerns cam timing, but before I go any further this is what I have:

Comp Cams 12-432-8

110° Lobe-Center Angle, 106° Intake Centerline, 230° Duration @ .050" Int., 236° Duration @ .050" Ex., .510" Lift Int., .520" Lift Ex

Assume supporting mods (intake, exhaust, stock alum. heads) for this motor (350CI) are installed. This is a carb'd car.

Obviosly I will have to degree in this cam as will any other. My timing set has an option of -4°, 0°, +4° timing marks on it.

The car is going to be a track only car, not subjected to any kind of inspection except a tech inspection.

Should I advance or retard the cam, or install it straight up.

Thanks.
If in doubt straight up, I would not retard the cam. If anything on a track car, I would advance it. This should help a little with higher RPM power. As the intake valve will open sooner in the stroke.
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Old Nov 17, 2010 | 08:53 PM
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A simulation would help decide the best option.

If you have the supporting mods, my first thought would be to retard it as Pete K pointed out. When you develop more top end power and stay in a lower gear longer, you usually end up going faster. But, that's not always a given.

Had I opted for a track car, I would have retarded mine and installed the HSR. My simulation showed that to be faster (more power up top).

93Rubie has it backwards.
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If in doubt straight up, I would not retard the cam. If anything on a track car, I would advance it. This should help a little with higher RPM power. As the intake valve will open sooner in the stroke.
Backwards, as Pete stated, advancing the cam moves the power band lower. Retarding it moves it higher. Normally a track car will utilize a higher rpm band.
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That cam is pretty big for a 350, I would install it at the 106 Intake centerline that cam card recommends. You need to degree it to be sure where the installed centerline really is, do not rely on the -4, 0, +4 timing chain. The 106 ICL will help low end power and the engine will still peak north of 6000 RPM and probably want to be shifted at 6500 RPM.
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Originally Posted by GREGGPENN
A simulation would help decide the best option.

If you have the supporting mods, my first thought would be to retard it as Pete K pointed out. When you develop more top end power and stay in a lower gear longer, you usually end up going faster. But, that's not always a given.

Had I opted for a track car, I would have retarded mine and installed the HSR. My simulation showed that to be faster (more power up top).

93Rubie has it backwards.
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