C4 Tech/Performance L98 Corvette and LT1 Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine

My 700 R4 build.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 22, 2011 | 09:51 PM
  #41  
87 vette 81 big girl's Avatar
87 vette 81 big girl
Melting Slicks
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 2,765
Likes: 5
Default

If you lived closer Mike to me by Peoria, IL, i would let you use my full set of 700R4/4L60E kent Moore trans tools.

Prices are kind of high on some tool finds you have shown.

I am thinking Dana at Pro built transmissions in California had the correct rebuild tools needed also.

I will search tonight later when I have time for you too.
Reply
Old Jan 22, 2011 | 09:52 PM
  #42  
CorvetteMike2024's Avatar
CorvetteMike2024
Thread Starter
Corvette Enthusiast
Supporting Lifetime Gold
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 6,795
Likes: 2,717
From: So. Cal.
2025 C7 of the Year Finalist- Unmodified
2024 C7 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified
2023 C7 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified
Default

Reverse input drum?

http://www.bulkpart.com/Merchant2/me...L60-700R4drums

I realy appriacate everyones help

Mike
Reply
Old Jan 22, 2011 | 10:06 PM
  #43  
87 vette 81 big girl's Avatar
87 vette 81 big girl
Melting Slicks
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 2,765
Likes: 5
Default

Originally Posted by CorvetteMike2004
Reverse input drum?

http://www.bulkpart.com/Merchant2/me...L60-700R4drums

I realy appriacate everyones help

Mike
Check with your local GM Dealership for the Reverse Input drum for your 1990 700R4 too Mike.

I think the GM part is best. Have been told that by other pro trans builders too.

Try this : www.transstar.com

The have the service tools you need also.

have hub shipping centers all over the USA.

Including Chicago area here in Illinois.
Reply
Old Jan 22, 2011 | 10:40 PM
  #44  
Muffin's Avatar
Muffin
Race Director
Supporting Lifetime Gold
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Jun 1999
Posts: 14,924
Likes: 9
From: Merritt Ils Fl
Default

Originally Posted by Pete K
Happy to help.
Another option for bushings is to say a local trans guy a couple of bucks to do them for you. Saves you a few hundred dollars on drivers you will only use 1 time.
This applies to other steps where it is a one time use. When I did mine a local shop did three steps for me at a cost of $15.00 per step. It has been so long I forgot which steps. I did the same kit you are doing, got something like 25 k on it now with absolutely no problems. BTW, the B&M guide is excellent.
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2011 | 09:42 AM
  #45  
87 vette 81 big girl's Avatar
87 vette 81 big girl
Melting Slicks
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 2,765
Likes: 5
Default

I dont know if that www.transtar.com link helped you or not Mike.

There is one upgrade that I think should be done to all 700R4, 4L60E, and 4L65E transmissions during an overhaul or raceing bulidup....

Buy and install a heavy duty "BEAST SUN GEAR DRIVE SHELL"

The original GM sun gear shell in our our C4's are known to be on the weak side. They sometimes break along the splined area where it mates up to the Rear output mainshaft.
They will strip off all the splines or even crack.

When that happens, you lose 2nd, 4th, and reverse gears.

Does happen even behind a stock V8 or even a V6 engine.

The aftermarket "Beast Sun Gear Shell" is a big improvement in strength over the stock GM part. Supposed to take upwards of 800+ horsepower I have been told.

I think Pete K. recommends the Heavy Duty Beast Sun Gear Drive Shell too.

I bought a Beast Sun Gear Shell and installed it into my 87 Vert trans during rebuild.

It is a much heavier and beefier(thicker along the splined area) part than the original GM part.

For $50.00 its a good investment to put into your 700R4 trans.

If your B&M transkit has the "Beast Sungear shell in it, You are one step ahead already then.

If not, I would buy a Beast Sun Shell.

Brian R.
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2011 | 09:58 AM
  #46  
Calderone's Avatar
Calderone
Le Mans Master
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 8,448
Likes: 27
From: Valparaiso
Default

with Brian , when my tranny was rebuilt i was there watching every step
and i did get THE BEAST, its pretty good insurance and i have read nothing but good comments about it , the sad thing is that i have zero memory of installing it neither comparing it to the original part
So maybe i bought it but didn't get it ...i can't remember
but soon i will know if it breaks !
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2011 | 10:06 AM
  #47  
87 vette 81 big girl's Avatar
87 vette 81 big girl
Melting Slicks
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 2,765
Likes: 5
Default

I used the Transgo No Yo Yo Hardened Pump Rings for high rev applications too.

And Trans Go High Rev spring kit.

And a PATC 10-Vane Billet Steel Pump Rotor.

And bought another stock 10 Vane pump kit for the outer slide and New vanes in the kit.

Maybe overboard, but for my 410 Ci smallblock I have built, I didnt want to have any future problems when ready to do my engine swap.


Sammy, You have to have the "BEAST SUN GEAR SHELL IN YOUR 700R4 !

I think with the stock GM shell, by now You would have broken it. LOL

You like to race and get on it hard over and over like me !
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2011 | 12:13 PM
  #48  
Nick DL's Avatar
Nick DL
Drifting
15 Year Member
All Eyes On Me
Liked
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 1,254
Likes: 3
From: Souderton Pa.
Default

Good luck with your tranny rebuild.

You are a lucky man, my wife loves me completely but would draw the line at a bike or tranny rebuild in the kitchen.
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

 Brett Foote
story-2

10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Jan 25, 2011 | 09:14 PM
  #49  
CorvetteMike2024's Avatar
CorvetteMike2024
Thread Starter
Corvette Enthusiast
Supporting Lifetime Gold
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 6,795
Likes: 2,717
From: So. Cal.
2025 C7 of the Year Finalist- Unmodified
2024 C7 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified
2023 C7 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified
Default

Update on this thread.

I have been working on my el camino since last saterday. I work full time so my time on my cars is limited. Anyway, I installed my new seats and new Hurst competition Plus shifter. I am driving this while my vette is down so I wanted to wrap this up first. (el camino). I did not get the line locks on yet, but that will come later.

So tomorrow after work I am going to resume working on the vette.

Pics or it didnt happen on the camino?

Here is pics

Mike





Reply
Old Jan 25, 2011 | 10:16 PM
  #50  
87 vette 81 big girl's Avatar
87 vette 81 big girl
Melting Slicks
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 2,765
Likes: 5
Default

Originally Posted by CorvetteMike2004
Update on this thread.

I have been working on my el camino since last saterday. I work full time so my time on my cars is limited. Anyway, I installed my new seats and new Hurst competition Plus shifter. I am driving this while my vette is down so I wanted to wrap this up first. (el camino). I did not get the line locks on yet, but that will come later.

So tomorrow after work I am going to resume working on the vette.

Pics or it didnt happen on the camino?

Here is pics

Mike





What year is your Big Block El Camino Mike ? Is it a 1968 or 1969?

Looks like it is alot of fun to drive around. LOL

Is it quiet ? Or do you have 1 or 2 chamber Flow Master mufflers on the Camino ?

Big Blocks with loud exaughst are alot of fun to drive around in and set off car alarms and store window alarms. LOL

I used to do that in my Big Block Pontiac 1970 1/2 Trans Am.

Just idle by and set the vibration sensors - alarms off and smile.

Even more fun to show that to a buddie riding shotgun with you.
Reply
Old Jan 26, 2011 | 05:08 AM
  #51  
CorvetteMike2024's Avatar
CorvetteMike2024
Thread Starter
Corvette Enthusiast
Supporting Lifetime Gold
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 6,795
Likes: 2,717
From: So. Cal.
2025 C7 of the Year Finalist- Unmodified
2024 C7 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified
2023 C7 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified
Default

Its a 1969. This car gets way more attention that my vette does when I drive it..

I love the low rpm torque a big block produces.

Mike


Originally Posted by 87 vette 81 big girl
What year is your Big Block El Camino Mike ? Is it a 1968 or 1969?

Looks like it is alot of fun to drive around. LOL

Is it quiet ? Or do you have 1 or 2 chamber Flow Master mufflers on the Camino ?

Big Blocks with loud exaughst are alot of fun to drive around in and set off car alarms and store window alarms. LOL

I used to do that in my Big Block Pontiac 1970 1/2 Trans Am.

Just idle by and set the vibration sensors - alarms off and smile.

Even more fun to show that to a buddie riding shotgun with you.
Reply
Old Jan 26, 2011 | 09:29 AM
  #52  
Baldfart's Avatar
Baldfart
Burning Brakes
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,180
Likes: 2
From: Yes it's hot! Arizona
Default

Love you're 69 El Camino Mike! I had a 66 El Camino but sold it a couple years ago.
Reply
Old Jan 26, 2011 | 09:45 PM
  #53  
CorvetteMike2024's Avatar
CorvetteMike2024
Thread Starter
Corvette Enthusiast
Supporting Lifetime Gold
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 6,795
Likes: 2,717
From: So. Cal.
2025 C7 of the Year Finalist- Unmodified
2024 C7 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified
2023 C7 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified
Default

Todays progress.
Its going slow. After I get off work I usually only work until dark because it gets cold then. I have a hard time staying motivated when Im cold.

Today I removed the TC cover, TC bolts, removed the drive shaft and C beam. This is my first time having the driveshaft and c beam out of my car.

Tomorrow I hope to pull it. I think I want to take the top 2 bell housing bolts out first. Anyone know what size bell housing bolts are?`And how do you put those ****'s back in when you are re-assembling?

Thanks for all replies.

Mike

Reply
Old Jan 26, 2011 | 09:50 PM
  #54  
87 vette 81 big girl's Avatar
87 vette 81 big girl
Melting Slicks
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 2,765
Likes: 5
Default

Originally Posted by CorvetteMike2004
Todays progress.
Its going slow. After I get off work I usually only work until dark because it gets cold then. I have a hard time staying motivated when Im cold.

Today I removed the TC cover, TC bolts, removed the drive shaft and C beam. This is my first time having the driveshaft and c beam out of my car.

Tomorrow I hope to pull it. I think I want to take the top 2 bell housing bolts out first. Anyone know what size bell housing bolts are?`And how do you put those ****'s back in when you are re-assembling?

Thanks for all replies.

Mike

The bellhousing bolts should be 9/16" inch socket size Mike.

Thats what they are on my 87 Vert.

Just put the bolts back up with your socket and extension with a swivel U-joint between.

Not that bad that way to remove and reinstall all 6 bellhousing to block bolts.
Reply
Old Jan 26, 2011 | 10:07 PM
  #55  
87vertte's Avatar
87vertte
Heel & Toe
 
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 15
Likes: 0
Default

Hello Mike.just finished this project on my 87, i used a 1/2'' impact 12'' ext. & 9/16 impact wiggle socket, not to bad of a job Good luck Jeff
Reply
Old Jan 26, 2011 | 10:42 PM
  #56  
86PACER's Avatar
86PACER
Le Mans Master
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 5,858
Likes: 7
From: Santa Maria CA
Default

Might want to pick up this step by step DVD. Blows the shop manual out of the water.

http://store.boxwrench.net/GM-Turbo-...-DVD_p_60.html
Reply
Old Jan 26, 2011 | 11:42 PM
  #57  
JackDidley's Avatar
JackDidley
Race Director
20 Year Member
Active Streak: 30 Days
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 16,838
Likes: 341
From: Database Error Indiana
Default

Impact is your friend. Long extension and 9/16 wobble socket for sure on the bell bolts. I think there some ground wires on the driver side ?? The one wih the dipstick strap is the hard one.
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To My 700 R4 build.

Old Jan 28, 2011 | 04:57 AM
  #58  
CorvetteMike2024's Avatar
CorvetteMike2024
Thread Starter
Corvette Enthusiast
Supporting Lifetime Gold
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 6,795
Likes: 2,717
From: So. Cal.
2025 C7 of the Year Finalist- Unmodified
2024 C7 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified
2023 C7 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified
Default

On thursday, after work, I finally got the tranny out. I think im going to start the tear down saturday morning.






Reply
Old Jan 29, 2011 | 03:25 PM
  #59  
CorvetteMike2024's Avatar
CorvetteMike2024
Thread Starter
Corvette Enthusiast
Supporting Lifetime Gold
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 6,795
Likes: 2,717
From: So. Cal.
2025 C7 of the Year Finalist- Unmodified
2024 C7 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified
2023 C7 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified
Default

Progress from this morning. Am all ears everyone for your comments.




Reply
Old Jan 29, 2011 | 03:26 PM
  #60  
CorvetteMike2024's Avatar
CorvetteMike2024
Thread Starter
Corvette Enthusiast
Supporting Lifetime Gold
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 6,795
Likes: 2,717
From: So. Cal.
2025 C7 of the Year Finalist- Unmodified
2024 C7 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified
2023 C7 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified
Default


Reply



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:50 PM.

story-0
10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Corvettes that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 10:34:17


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

A lot of money has changed hands at the online auction house over the years.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-03 10:21:50


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: 10 great gifts Corvette enthusiasts actually want for Father's Day!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:40


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

Slideshow: These are the quirks, annoyances, and oddly lovable problems that every Corvette owner eventually learns to live with.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 09:31:39


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

Slideshow: 10 reasons why the C6 Z06 is still a performance benchmark after 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 17:20:09


VIEW MORE
story-5
How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

Slideshow: How much horsepower every Corvette engine lost in 1972.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:54:53


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

Slideshow: How to Protect A Convertible Top: 10 DOs & DON'Ts

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

Slideshow: The 10 most explosive Corvettes ever built based on power-to-weight ratio.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 07:23:03


VIEW MORE
story-8
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-9
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE