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Old May 13, 2011 | 11:54 AM
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I know the timing is all in the Opti and the computer, but can it be changed by computer tricks on an LT4?
I just changed another Opti and although it runs just fine (better actually) the highway mileage seems a couple of mpg lower than it had been on previous long hauls. Not at all bad, just not quite as high as I've seen it in the past. I don't have a clue how to even check the baseline on this or how to advance timing if it is even possible. Is it?
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Originally Posted by Klondike
I know the timing is all in the Opti and the computer, but can it be changed by computer tricks on an LT4?
I just changed another Opti and although it runs just fine (better actually) the highway mileage seems a couple of mpg lower than it had been on previous long hauls. Not at all bad, just not quite as high as I've seen it in the past. I don't have a clue how to even check the baseline on this or how to advance timing if it is even possible. Is it?
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You can buy a mail order tune from PCMforless or you can buy software to tune it yourself. Its very simple you just use a laptop and a cable that hooks into you OBD2 diagnostic port. The software comes with a cable usually. The timing is based on on a table in the ECM that uses the Manifold Air Pressure sensor and Rpm inputs. The higher the manifold pressure the lower the timing.

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Checking actual timing on an LT1 or LT4 is a pain in the rear. You need to make a TDC pointer and set actual TDC once you verify the actual TDC with a piston stop or some other method. There is no way to easily adjust the timing other then programming. I always indicate TDC on an LT1 to verify that the timing you are commanding is actual timing or is it off by some undefined number. I have seen LT1 timing as much as 27 degrees retarded when actual was compared to assumed.
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The msd opti allows +/- 5 degrees change with a turn of a screw. my msd digital 6 plus retards to 8 or 10 degrees max with 12 volts to pink wire. That's as much as I know. The last time I had a chip burned was in 2000 with ed wright. I called him the other day cause i have changed some things on my 92 and have a dead spot at 1700. He sold his dyno. I wish I knew how to tune myself or could find someone closer to dfw that is good. Anyway, I wish I could help you more. Good Luck!
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The LT1/4 timing tables are very complex. There is so much more than just base timing or total advance. Timing can constantly change depending on rpm and engine load.
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The PCM gives you max timing to an extent now and uses the knock sensor to retard the timing for spark knock. I have read about the msd opti's advance coming apart on the camaro boards. If you want to add some timing the best way is with a tune. This will also give you an opportunity to tweak fueling. Even if you give the MSD unit the full 6 degrees of advance and the PCM determines it doesn't need it it will retard the timing as needed upto 15 degrees depending on operating conditions.


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