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Old 03-24-2012, 05:54 PM
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Looking forward to May 1st!
Teaser until then....
Old 03-24-2012, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 1985 Corvette
Johnny, you pull the trigger on this and you will go down in C4 Tech history as having the baddest engine swap ever. All motor, brand new 7.4 liter V8 that's an LS?

DO IT! Do for those of us who can only dream it. What kind of FI intake can feed that monster?

On a side note: this engine makes me wonder why one would cough up 14 grand for a LS7 that is down 100 ponies by comparison.
Why would this be the baddest engine in C4 history? a big block 502 or bigger and John Meaney turbo 400, is at the top of my list, IMO. The LS swap is the rave, the new thing to do. The LS is a really good platform and the power potential is better than Gen 1, Gen 2 stock because of the heads. Most of the problems that happened with the Gen 1 & 2 have been fixed with the LS series. You can put a 18/15/13 degree head on a Gen 1 and make equal or more power than LS. The LS in an old car has a wow factor to allot of people. To me the swap is more interesting than the fact that it is a LS engine in a car/truck that did not come with one. Now if you put a LS in place of a 4/6 cylinder vehicle that did not come with a 8 cylinder is always a good read.
Don't get me wrong, engine swaps are always fun, it is the foundation of our hobby, it keeps us sane and out of trouble, plus it make you vehicle yours, not just another factory model.
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Originally Posted by yedister
Why would this be the baddest engine in C4 history? a big block 502 or bigger and John Meaney turbo 400, is at the top of my list, IMO. The LS swap is the rave, the new thing to do. The LS is a really good platform and the power potential is better than Gen 1, Gen 2 stock because of the heads. Most of the problems that happened with the Gen 1 & 2 have been fixed with the LS series. You can put a 18/15/13 degree head on a Gen 1 and make equal or more power than LS. The LS in an old car has a wow factor to allot of people. To me the swap is more interesting than the fact that it is a LS engine in a car/truck that did not come with one. Now if you put a LS in place of a 4/6 cylinder vehicle that did not come with a 8 cylinder is always a good read.
Don't get me wrong, engine swaps are always fun, it is the foundation of our hobby, it keeps us sane and out of trouble, plus it make you vehicle yours, not just another factory model.
LSX swaps are the rave. It's different than the traditional architecture of the gen 1. The LS motor is here to stay. The idea is it's a new age engine honed specifically for the Corvette dropped into an old Vette, a resto rod. This is as modern an engine you can get with gobs of displacement that still idles in traffic just fine. N/A power 600hp+? Out of the box potential is ridiculous. But that's just my opinion.

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Old 03-24-2012, 10:03 PM
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You're going to put an LSX 454 into a Corvette named Alice? At least rename the car Pat or Chris.

Sue possibly? Johnny Cash would be proud
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Originally Posted by Skivette1
Teaser until then....
I'm soooo jealous....my pockets have been shallow lately.

Can't wait to see the finished build and how you solve the swap probs.

Are you using the ZF tranny? Are you beefing the rearend?
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After coming back from the Hot Rod Power Tour,, I'm really interested in the LSX,,, possibly with a Magnuson on top.

When I take the cost of a block at $2300, new heads for $2100, and the rest of the stuff I'll need to build a 406 or 421, the LS7 is starting to look mighty appealing

I'll have to ask my boss for a raise,, but wait, I am my boss I could take the $4400 for paint I was getting ready to spend and add that to "go fast fund" but I really want a Maggy on top

Guess I'll start looking thru the installation history from others.

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Old 06-05-2012, 10:08 AM
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That LSx 454 will whip the pants off the ZZ502 any day.

Most the crate 502s are dogs, the HO454 is a joke. They need a cam change and heads to start running hard.


Cubes are always good though no matter what.
Love to have that LSx 454 the power is already there....and HUGE potential to turn up the wick.
Old 06-05-2012, 12:20 PM
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Well if its the same dimensions here's mine. Fits like a glove. No pumps, no sensors, no ECU, no bull.

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/c...f/DSCF0216.jpg
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Dont get my wrong with the LSx stuff is cool, and makes sick power compared to the Gen 1 stuff, but if you are going to go thru the hassle of an LSx powerplant sell the car, and buy a modded C5. The C5 platform is far better depending on what you are looking at.

The reason why I modded my 88 is because I like the looks, and that very well could be reasons why guys want to do a LSx. I could have easily sold mine, and bought a C5 Z06.

I guess no matter what car you buy, if you are a real car guy you will always sink money into it to make it your own. I dont know anyone around my parts with a 421 stuffed under the bonnet in a C4. Most would think I was crazy spending that kind of money on an old C4. That's "hotrodding".

Opinions are like *******s. Everyone has one.

Just research the LSx stuff. Most guys dont finish the projects, and there is a reason why.
Old 06-05-2012, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by cuisinartvette
If it doesnt fit, make it. Thats hot rodding...way to have something unique.

Not a total bolt in deal anyway might as well go the distance.
"if you build it, they will come"

"go the distance"

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Originally Posted by 88BlackZ-51
Dont get my wrong with the LSx stuff is cool, and makes sick power compared to the Gen 1 stuff, but if you are going to go thru the hassle of an LSx powerplant sell the car, and buy a modded C5. The C5 platform is far better depending on what you are looking at.

The reason why I modded my 88 is because I like the looks, and that very well could be reasons why guys want to do a LSx. I could have easily sold mine, and bought a C5 Z06.

I guess no matter what car you buy, if you are a real car guy you will always sink money into it to make it your own. I dont know anyone around my parts with a 421 stuffed under the bonnet in a C4. Most would think I was crazy spending that kind of money on an old C4. That's "hotrodding".

Opinions are like *******s. Everyone has one.

Just research the LSx stuff. Most guys dont finish the projects, and there is a reason why.
I don't disagree at all, problem is that I don't know how to quit

If someone would give me $10k, i would move on, problem is, no one will give me $10k

Honestly, I can add a Supercharger and have more HP than a LSX
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Rick see this from the Hot Rod Power Tour, a Dodge Viper Engine in a 1951 Buick,, complete with custom hood prop.... go figure, dude must love Buick's

Old 06-05-2012, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 88BlackZ-51
Dont get my wrong with the LSx stuff is cool, and makes sick power compared to the Gen 1 stuff, but if you are going to go thru the hassle and cost of any real build sell the car, and buy a modded C5. The C5 platform is far better depending on what you are looking at.
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Old 06-05-2012, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by LD85
After coming back from the Hot Rod Power Tour,, I'm really interested in the LSX,,, possibly with a Magnuson on top.

When I take the cost of a block at $2300, new heads for $2100, and the rest of the stuff I'll need to build a 406 or 421, the LS7 is starting to look mighty appealing

I'll have to ask my boss for a raise,, but wait, I am my boss I could take the $4400 for paint I was getting ready to spend and add that to "go fast fund" but I really want a Maggy on top

Guess I'll start looking thru the installation history from others.
Do it!!
I still dont get why people say its so expensive. It is if you go with all new stuff and have nothing to sell.. Sell your current engine and acc and your half way there.
Oh and once the swap is done the road is paved for future LS goodies/engine transplants.
Old 06-09-2012, 05:16 PM
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What about the AC, does it mount in the same position?
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Very cool. If I had a shoppe to trust up here on Canada that had a brain I think I would have tried to do something like this but I settled on another LT4. If I went lsx it sure as hell would have been a big cube big bore solid roller monster. I'm making 610 hp out of a 370 ci LT4. I'm scared for the cheese like chassis just thinking what stupid power I could have made with a 8500 rpm solid roller big bore 402/427.

It ALWAYS comes down to the same things..

1. ECM . IMO this is the easiest issue to deal with as standalones are common place and very easy to do.

2. Drivetrain. I'm STILL confused as to what the options are for transmissions and what needs to be done in order to fit certain ones. In every thread I end up seeing top secret brackets and machines mounts of some sort that no one wants to talk about. I usually leave the thread right there.

3. Probably more like accessories etc but I'm too tired to type.
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Originally Posted by LD85
Rick see this from the Hot Rod Power Tour, a Dodge Viper Engine in a 1951 Buick,, complete with custom hood prop.... go figure, dude must love Buick's

That is bloody fantastic !!! A twin turbo under a perfectly rusted exterior! I'm in love!

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That is one badazz Buick! Bet it suprises a few.
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Originally Posted by LD85
What about the AC, does it mount in the same position?
I am going to put mine in the same position with an adapter. Right now the goal is to get it going then tweak from there.
Adapter:
http://www.kwikperf.com/lsx_ac.html

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How in the heck do you Supercharge the LSX when it is a 11:1 cr?

If I can maintain my AC, I would be willing to install the LSX and then wait to put a Magnuson SC on later


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