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Old Jul 19, 2011 | 11:51 AM
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Bought a 1990 vette Friday. Car cranked fine (had a bypass switch tired into the ignition because the rack switch was broke) and drove all day Friday and Saturday morning. Saturday the car died while idling in the driveway. Battery was dead and after checking, the alternator was bad. Recharged the battery and replaced the alternator. Since I was already working on my newly purchased vette I went ahead and replaced the rack switch too.
After reconnecting everything, I go to start the car and it wouldn't start. Realized I had the airbag fuze out and that was part of the ecm fuse too. Put it back in and tried to crank again.
1. When I turn the key on I can hear the fuel pump running for a few seconds.
2. Checked and the plugs are firing.
3. After about 5 to 8 seconds of trying to crank you can smell gas pretty strong (like it's flooding out really fast).
There's where I started and where I'm at. Any directions please? Thanks!
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Spark out of the coil? Spark to the plugs?
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Old Jul 19, 2011 | 01:04 PM
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fuel pressure regulator, pull the vacum hose and check for fuel in it
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Spark out of the coil? Spark to the plugs?
Spark to the plugs are good.
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Old Jul 19, 2011 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by oldalaskaman
fuel pressure regulator, pull the vacum hose and check for fuel in it
No full was present but will check pressure with a gauge this evening. I'll let ya know the exact details on the pressure.
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Old Jul 19, 2011 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by tonyole
No full was present but will check pressure with a gauge this evening. I'll let ya know the exact details on the pressure.
Check that vac line at the fuel regulator AND check the OIL ! !

this could very easily be a shorted inj bank which will DUMP raw fuel into the crankcase as will the regulator. You should NOT be able to smell gas in a FI engine even when its not starting. If there IS excess gas coming from somewhere...isolate it by d/c the regulator, and trying a start up. No start, go back and look at each inj plug...they short and kill the whole bank. Pull a plug to see if the cyl is wet.

Look at your dist wires..those clips are good for breaking and the metal tabs in the coil cap corrode and break apart.
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Old Jul 19, 2011 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by leesvet
Check that vac line at the fuel regulator AND check the OIL ! !

this could very easily be a shorted inj bank which will DUMP raw fuel into the crankcase as will the regulator.
There is gas in the oil!!! I opened the oil cap and could smell it and actually saw it setting inside.

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Old Jul 19, 2011 | 09:21 PM
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Alright here's where we are at:
Fuel in the line and it holds pressure. (it pulsates also when cranking up to 55 psi but holds at 40 psi when at rest)
Checked the injectors and they are pulsating like they are suppose to but they are dumping gas and it want crank...... When we unplug the injectors it will crank and run for a short period of time and then goes dead. Tried hooking 1 injector up to all, but as soon as we did it started dumping fuel again.
We put a hose on the rail and it crank and ran while it poured fuel out. Turned off the car and unhooked the hose that was bleeding the extra pressure/fuel off. Now with it all hooked back up it's cranking? What caused this and what to do to prevent/correct it?

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Old Jul 19, 2011 | 10:37 PM
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Sorry for the updates on the last post. I was trying to give live data which may not be good for future reference.....
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Old Jul 21, 2011 | 04:53 PM
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Appears it was the Pressure Regulator. Replaced it yesterday evening and the car cranks much easier and quicker. Haven't put the gauge on to check the actual pressure with the new regulator yet but the car cranks so much easier now.
Thanks to EVERYONE for your help! It really means a lot.... now time for project #2 on the new ride
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Old Jul 21, 2011 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by tonyole
Appears it was the Pressure Regulator. Replaced it yesterday evening and the car cranks much easier and quicker. Haven't put the gauge on to check the actual pressure with the new regulator yet but the car cranks so much easier now.
Thanks to EVERYONE for your help! It really means a lot.... now time for project #2 on the new ride
Glad you got it handled...

don;t forget to change the oil 2 times before stressing the motor...gasoline is a solvent and will loosen sludge that was normally stuck to something...it'll take a couple cheap oil changes to get everything out of there.
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