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Old Aug 12, 2011 | 09:20 PM
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New to corvette.... Want to make this ride sweet and decided to add Corsa cat backs, from what I've read, they seem to be the best. Anyway want to add some HP and the add for Corsa says it adds up to 40 HP, is this true without doing anything to the catalitic converters? I've heard that in order to add horse power you have to put in a X pipe off road and remove the Cats is that true?
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Old Aug 12, 2011 | 10:12 PM
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I have the Corsa cat-back. It's a great exhaust and I have no doubt they provide some increase in horsepower. But 40 hp seems a bit hard to believe. When you look at the design, the muffler has no restrictions. You can see straight through from the inlet to the outlet. The advantage is the sound cancelling technology they use. The system sounds aggressive under power but quiet when cruising. They have no drone. I think if you eliminate any cats the system may be louder than you want. With a single main cat and a 396 Super Ram mine is border line.
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Old Aug 13, 2011 | 12:45 PM
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40 HP is total BS for just a catback. Max 5 to 10 HP. You can get 5 HP just adding OEM style dual outlet mufflers.
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Old Aug 13, 2011 | 12:55 PM
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, 40 hp is total BS. most likely, you'll never feel 5 hp, in fact i've heard for anything to register on your SOTP meter, it takes about 20 hp. since cats are the most restrictive part of the exhaust system, adding anything less restrictive downstream doesn't add much. add an after market exhaust for looks and sound, but don't do it for performance, cause it ain't gonna happen!
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Old Aug 13, 2011 | 02:00 PM
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What year vette do you have?If it is an early tpi one the best thing you can do is remove the precats and install a high flow main cat.Then you can adapt an LT1 exhaust to the car and be quicker/better sounding for a lot less money.

If it is an LT1 car Corsa is hard to beat.For a stockish motor with factory manifolds I would replace the stock resonator with an x-pipe and see how you like it.

An x-pipe can add hp to most systems but is not necessary for an increase.Less restriction/improved flow is where the power is.
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Old Aug 13, 2011 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by BADDUCK
40 HP is total BS for just a catback. Max 5 to 10 HP. You can get 5 HP just adding OEM style dual outlet mufflers.
The MOST you will get at the wheels is 10 from any cat-back

Corsa's web site says 14 average, which is probably motor horsepower, which would translate to something less than 10 RWHP

http://www.corsaperf.com/product_dis...px?product=188

I was sure Corsa would not promote some BS like 40 horsepower from a C4 cat-back.....

Combine with high flow cats and long tube headers and the total gain might be up around 40 horsepower..

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Originally Posted by LT4BUD
The MOST you will get at the wheels is 10 from any cat-back

Corsa's web site says 14 average, which is probably motor horsepower, which would translate to something less than 10 RWHP

http://www.corsaperf.com/product_dis...px?product=188

I was sure Corsa would not promote some BS like 40 horsepower from a C4 cat-back.....

Combine with high flow cats and long tube headers and the total gain might be up around 40 horsepower..

When I installed my Corsa system i also installed a high flow main cat (no pre-cats) and TPiS headers. If you do the whole exhaust I guarantee you will feel it. The majority of the increase in power comes from the headers. The stock exhaust manifolds look OK from the outside but the ports are very restrictive (1-1/4" diameter).

Actual hp gains are dependent on other power modifications. If you increase intake and cylinder head flow you also need to increase exhaust flow.
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Old Aug 13, 2011 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 96 lt-4
What year vette do you have?If it is an early tpi one the best thing you can do is remove the precats and install a high flow main cat.Then you can adapt an LT1 exhaust to the car and be quicker/better sounding for a lot less money.

If it is an LT1 car Corsa is hard to beat.For a stockish motor with factory manifolds I would replace the stock resonator with an x-pipe and see how you like it.

An x-pipe can add hp to most systems but is not necessary for an increase.Less restriction/improved flow is where the power is.

The TPI stock headers are extremely restrictive. You can see it when you take them off. Throwing some LT1 headers on there is simple to do and dirt cheap. Getting a blank Y-pipe is another great addition and a simple install. With that, you might as well throw in a high flow cat to attach to the Corsa kit. You can head to a junk yard and find the headers. You can get the Y-pipe from tons of sponsors on this site and the cat can come from....well.... anywhere!
Considering how restrictive the stock exhaust is, you MIGHT be able to get 30 HP gain. Pretty cheap, and you get the great sound with it. Be careful though. You don't want to get pulled over for noise pollution. Even though it gives you some cool bragging rights, it's expensive.
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Old Aug 13, 2011 | 05:26 PM
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wow, thanks for all the info, wasn't sure on the 40 HP now know. How about adding a free flow cat or the X pipe, will they make it much louder, don't want exhaust too loud. I have a 98 convertable with a grand sport engine in it.
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Originally Posted by dennyschutz
I have a 98 convertable with a grand sport engine in it.
What?
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Originally Posted by STL94LT1
What?
might be a typo. i'm thinking this dude has a 96 LT4.
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I do have the LT4
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Originally Posted by Joe C
, 40 hp is total BS. most likely, you'll never feel 5 hp, in fact i've heard for anything to register on your SOTP meter, it takes about 20 hp. since cats are the most restrictive part of the exhaust system, adding anything less restrictive downstream doesn't add much. add an after market exhaust for looks and sound, but don't do it for performance, cause it ain't gonna happen!
That is true you will never feel the 5 hp from the catback. But you will add 5 hp and your vette will actually sound like a vette. Also when you add some other stuff to your vette say remove the cat, and a few other simple mods you will actually feel the difference and it will sound better.

I would think the best mods for a non racing vette owner, would be:

catback
change the rear gears

They are the best because they are easily changed back to stock and you can sell the parts on ebay when you are done with the car.
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Originally Posted by dennyschutz
I do have the LT4
If it's a '96 MY LT4 the exhaust is already quite good. Aside from spending money the Corsa isn't likely much of a performance boost.

I'd be inclined to do a "rear gear"! I don't believe I'd go to a 4.10 but do maybe a 3.73 or a 3.90. An x-pipe to replace the resonator might be something to consider but unless you just want the Corsa tips and the WOT roar of the Corsa I'd certainly stay with "what you got"!
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5 max thats it. The manufacturers will tell you 40 because they want you to get a smile on your face, buy it, install it and then come here and post that your LT1 now has 340 horses.

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If it is a 96 lt4 with a 6 speed you already have 3.45 gears.Unless you plan on racing it that really is a good gear.Not worth the cost to go to a 3.73 IMO.I have 4.10's in mine and sometimes get tired of the constant shifting in town.1st 2nd 5th has become the norm.
Like said the stock exhaust is pretty good.Replacing the resonator will pick up a few hp and improve the sound.If you like the shiny tips try a magnaflow axle back and save the money.
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Originally Posted by WVZR-1
If it's a '96 MY LT4 the exhaust is already quite good. Aside from spending money the Corsa isn't likely much of a performance boost.

I'd be inclined to do a "rear gear"! I don't believe I'd go to a 4.10 but do maybe a 3.73 or a 3.90. An x-pipe to replace the resonator might be something to consider but unless you just want the Corsa tips and the WOT roar of the Corsa I'd certainly stay with "what you got"!
Yep, your LT4 has a pretty damn good exhaust. Anything that you do to it will be purely for sound.
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Originally Posted by navy_vette
Yep, your LT4 has a pretty damn good exhaust. Anything that you do to it will be purely for sound.
....as far as the cat-back portion goes

...but there are bigger gains to be made from high flow cats and long tube headers, that is the better starting point for power gains

Or just do it all!!

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Originally Posted by 96 lt-4
If it is a 96 lt4 with a 6 speed you already have 3.45 gears.Unless you plan on racing it that really is a good gear.Not worth the cost to go to a 3.73 IMO.I have 4.10's in mine and sometimes get tired of the constant shifting in town.1st 2nd 5th has become the norm.
Like said the stock exhaust is pretty good.Replacing the resonator will pick up a few hp and improve the sound.If you like the shiny tips try a magnaflow axle back and save the money.
I won't debate the axle ratio thing but depending upon the desired drive-ability a .30 or .45 ratio change can certainly improve the car. The expense? It all "costs"! Actually a gear might be the best value!
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I put a Corsa cat back on my 96 CE Roadster LT4. Strictly for the sound. It is perfect.
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