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Old Dec 1, 2011 | 12:52 PM
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My 93, stock except for electric wp, stalls and is very hard to restart. Shows no codes. Seat of the pants feeling of no fuel. When it finally restarts, 15 to 30 seconds of cranking, it has a flooded carb smell. Of course it has no carb. Looking for some tips on where to start troubleshooting. Has 125,000 miles. All help appreciated.
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Step one for a no-start condition is to spray a small sniff of ether into the intake while cranking. If it starts, or tries, you have a fuel delivery problem. If no response, check for spark by grounding a plug wire while cranking (or use an induction-type timing light). The results of these two checks will determine your next steps.
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Sounds like you've got plenty of fuel so I'd guess your billion dollar opti spark is dying.
How long ago did you change the wp? Did the opti get wet?
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Sounds like you've got plenty of fuel so I'd guess your billion dollar opti spark is dying.
How long ago did you change the wp? Did the opti get wet?
You're likely right about the Opti. I only started with the basics, because there could be a raw-fuel smell but no fuel in the cyls, e.g. an underhood leak resulting in lack of pressure. (Of course, you would likely see something like that.)
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Originally Posted by engle1147
Sounds like you've got plenty of fuel so I'd guess your billion dollar opti spark is dying.
How long ago did you change the wp? Did the opti get wet?
Change wp out about 20000 ago. Opti never got wet. The no code is what has me baffled. Shouldn't a bad/intermittent opti throw some kind of code?
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Originally Posted by sailorsteve
Step one for a no-start condition is to spray a small sniff of ether into the intake while cranking. If it starts, or tries, you have a fuel delivery problem. If no response, check for spark by grounding a plug wire while cranking (or use an induction-type timing light). The results of these two checks will determine your next steps.
Use starting fluid at your own risk, can cause problems you did not have before.

To OP: start with the basics, verify fuel pressure with a gauge, verify spark.

How old is the fuel? Did this start recently after a fill up?

Does it stall warm, on cold start up, when as you did not specify?

FYI, it takes a LOT of a OBD-1 system to throw a code, it either works or it doesn't for the most part with OBD-1. No logic in the system unlike OBD-II to a certain extent.
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