They have a fuse you can pull and the baffles open up if you want noise.

And MR Greg, yes that was my car prior to the 06 Z06.

 

When I can purchase and build a C5 for under $8k, I'll think about it. Until then, I don't give a **** how awesome a C5/C6 is because they aren't in my price range. Period. Brag about how awesomesauce your **** is all you want, that's fine but don't belittle the rest of us for BUILDING instead of BUYING.

< Is sitting at $4800 in his car including purchase, registration and transport costs, with another $1300 to go out this winter before she's back to being track/autox/street ready.

 

I do not understand the hostility towards Corvette0096..... he's a long time member of this C4 forum and I know without a doubt, he has been contributing in a positive manner to this community for a long time. All he did was give his opinion on a subject matter. It wasn't an opinion that infringed upon anybody else. Was just one of many opinions you'll get on a public message board. If the advise doesn't pertain or interest you for whatever reason, do what I do.... just bounce over it and go to the next.

In regards to bragging, all he did was post a video of a fast and nice car. Lots of people do it....I've done it. Was planning on doing it again.... not so sure now. Is it bragging ? Maybe a little.... or maybe just as much about pride of ownership. Who knows, but its cool anyway.

Life's easy.

 

Thanks Beach ...This an excellent post

 

This negativity stuff gets pretty old

 

You could also say the C4 negativity gets old as well.

 

Take it with a grain of salt..To the original op have you looked into the hrs? 3 intakes out there miniram/super ram/hsr

 

Granted, I don't read as much as I used to here, I haven't noticed much, if any C4 negativity. I think 99% of posts have to do with tech problems, questions, etc.... But, its all good.

 

Do they have a HSR that fits under the stock C4 hood nowadays ?

I'd potentially be interested in that if one exists now.

 

it's the cost. when you add up all the $$ it takes to build a C4 the figures start climbing quick. it's 500 here, 1000 there, 2000 there. i know corvette0096 had around 20k in his 1985 car before he sold it, i had somewhere around 16k in mine before i sold it. that's just parts mind you.

all i can say is make sure you have an end goal in mind when you start a build. if it's drag racing, build it for that. road racing, build it for that. if it's a street car.....i vote leave it mostly stock with good pads, tires and mufflers

that's my view anyway.

OR

buy a c4 already built that someone is giving away. right now i know of a c4 with a 383, superram, dana 44, ron davis radiator, whole bunch of cool stuff you could get for 6500 dollars. the catch? well it's a salvage title that has been repaired but not re titled. it probably could get retitled with some work but would be an ideal donor car for someone who wants all the parts ready to go

 

There is too much hostility/negativity toward C4's. We berate the value of C4's to each other and to guest/prospective members. In the case of this thread, the OP didn't ask about the best options for upgrading vs buying up....it was a specific request about specific intakes. By going into the reasons for abandoning the project, it put a negative spin on the OP's goals. It said, don't bother with C4's anymore, it's time to trade up. That probably not the most helpful reply.

In general, I think most (and probably all) serious modders of cars would have already considered their options. That means weighing the cost of the upgrades vs the possibility of buying something new. Having someone -- especially from another era say "Don't bother, you're better off buying up", puts down what the builder is trying to do. (Think carefully, and you'll see that.)

That said, I have an additional grudge against this member. He intruded on a 4-sale post of mine -- against forum rules. He didn't PM me about any objection he had. Instead he posted a link were people could buy something similar (to a custom item I made) for about the same price. Everyone with any sense of courtesy would understand why this was insulting, against the rules, and in bad taste. When I asked 0096 for an explanation (by PM), he shelled out the normal insults, cussing, and told me to get lost. In short, he acted like he has special priviledge, defined himself as negative and arrogant.

You can see in this thread how he enjoyed mocking the car I built. Anyone else feel this is admirable? I'm guessing it's even against the CF rules...but some people probably think I'm the jerk.

From where I sit, I have zero respect for this member. Maybe you think he's a positive contributing member. I don't. In the case of this thread, I explained why. IMO, I think it's valid criticism.

FWIW, I have defined myself as combative in recent months. On one particular issue, I was asked by a vendor to help resolve an issue while being attacked in his defense. In another case, a similar happen-stance where people owning more expensive equipment liked to intrude and say why spending or doing less than them was inferior.

C4's are (and will continue to be) a constantly changing, evolving generation of Corvettes -- one where creativity and challenges (especially of cost efficiency) will be explored on an increasing basis. Once people start realizing what newer/younger generations of owners might be interested in, I think it's possible that some of the negativity might be set aside.

 

Greg,

Have never noticed any real hostility towards C4's in my years on this forum.... but, I haven't been surfing here a lot lately, so I'll take your word for it.

Regardless, I think different opinions are good.... including buying a newer high performance vehicle or buying an HSR as another member suggested or perhaps a well done modified Single Plane with an elbow trumps them all .... not even sure. Its all good. I think the OP chimed in with a thanks for all the suggestions, so I am sure this thread has helped him in some small way.

In regards to your problem with the other member, I do not know anything about it, sorry to hear of you guys problems with one another. Hope you can work it out. My point, was that in "this" thread he had committed no serious crime. He recommended a solution for performance increase.... which was a newer model. There's worse things the OP could do.

cheers to all.

 

Like I said use the search button up top. You will hours and hours of reading. The HSR will not fit under your hood with out moding it.

 

Is this a joke?
You have an old C4 there literally is nothing you can do to that car that has not been done except MAYBE put a ford motor in it and I have seen supra motors in them.

The intakes you are talking about many people have done both and then some. Start looking at Moon and Hogan intakes and Maybe you'll have something unique, not the only ever though.

My opinion is to drive different cars if you have money and see what you like. You don't have to dump money in to this one just because you have it. You might be able to buy another for the right price and all the work is done already.

 

http://www.usmracer.com/L98-Intake-M...ds_p_5548.html

Looks like they are trying to price themselves out of the market
Used to be $1100
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-g...ur-c4-l98.html

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/1561949257-post1.html
http://www.digitalcorvettes.com/foru...ad.php?t=59726

 

I offer a different path, How about a modified LT1 intake? The price would be cheaper and it will fit under the hood and port will make your power goal.

http://www.popularhotrodding.com/tec...ls1/index.html
http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/lt1-...on-187807.html
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-t...e-for-l98.html
http://www.lingenfelter.com/mm5/merc...egory_Code=C35

 

My modified lt1 works great, but after the money spent to get it going I should of just gone miniram. I might just sell mine and go hsr with a toledo hood..

 

I went the Super Ram route on my 85. The main reason was that I wanted power and I had to pass CA smog. The Super Ram is smog legal. When combined with the right components it can make some great power for the street and behave well. I drive mine every day.

Your Hp goal will require some serious work and $. I believe my combination exceeds your goal but without a dyno or time slip I won't say how much. It's more than enough for a daily driver.

I wanted to get as much as I could out of a GM block. My builder (Jim Barth) and I agreed on a 396. The cost was very close to a 383 but the extra torque is considerable. The cam needs to be matched to the SR power band. Because of smog, I was limited to a 221/230 duration. I suspect this intake would do fine with a little more. We went with AFR 195 heads. They flow a little more than the SR, but with some porting on the SR they are a good match. The exhaust needs to be opened up. I selected TPiS headers because they fit well with all the stock brackets. I also added a TPiS 1,100 CFM throttle body. The stock one is a little small. Here's a list of actual costs:

$1,500 - SR intake and throttle body
$7,800 - Block, machining, balancing, assembly, rotating assembly, heads, cam, valve train, flex plate, balancer, Canton oil pan, etc.
$650 - Fuel system to include pump, 42# injectors, regulator
$900 - Headers and front Y
$350 - Tune
$550 - Cooling system to include Dewitts radiator and high flow pump
$ ?? - Lots of miscellaneous

I don't disagree that a C5 or C6 would have been an easier route to go. But I'm not sure I would have enjoyed the experience as much. For an old C4, this car turns a lot of heads and it's fun to drive.

 

$1,500 - SR intake and throttle body
$7,800 - Block, machining, balancing, assembly, rotating assembly, heads, cam, valve train, flex plate, balancer, Canton oil pan, etc.
$650 - Fuel system to include pump, 42# injectors, regulator
$900 - Headers and front Y
$350 - Tune
$550 - Cooling system to include Dewitts radiator and high flow pump
$ ?? - Lots of miscellaneous

Tranny and convertor $2500 for one that will last the new power. The Dana 36 will have to be upgraded. $1200. Now with all this new power you should upgrade the brakes to slow the thing down. $1000 This depends on your driving style. But you build the power to go fast so you will use it.

Now you are close to $16k in parts alone. and there will be lots of miscellaneous parts.

 

I can't disagree with the tranny or converter. They're on my to-do list. So are the brakes. But for street driving the Dana 36 is holding it's own. Add sticky tires and that could change. Depending on how hard you hammer it, the Dana 44 might not hold up either.

The biggest challenge I have encountered is the tune. Tuning will make or break an engine. The 85's 160 Baud ECM is anything but a favorite. Most tuners won't touch it. I've ordered a kit from Tuner Cat so I can tweak things. If I didn't live in CA I'd be looking at a FAST system or at least a newer ECM.