93' C4 a/c conversion... who has done this?
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Instructor
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From: Gainesville Florida
93' C4 a/c conversion... who has done this?
My a/c in my 93 doesnt work... I'm assuming its the compressor.
Sooooo who has done conversion to the new a/c style? What components do I HAVE to replace? How much am I looking at if I try and do the labor my self?
Any help would be GREAT!
Thanks,
Austin
Sooooo who has done conversion to the new a/c style? What components do I HAVE to replace? How much am I looking at if I try and do the labor my self?
Any help would be GREAT!
Thanks,
Austin
Instructor
Joined: Apr 2008
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From: Roanoke Virginia
I changed mine when the compressor clutch went out while I was on a trip.
I replaced the orifice valve at first with a variable orifice and I couldn't get it to cool real well so i bought a blue ford valve. When i took the Variable valve out I had trash on it that's why it wasn't cooling. But since I had it out replaced it anyway.
I removed all the lines and flushed with citrus AC flush For the evap I flushed it both ways as best as I could then with compressed air. Same with condensor. Installed correct O rings and added oil to new accumulator. It cools pretty well now but could probably do better. The guys at corvette Action center really helped a bunch when I did this.
Unless your compressor is locked up and has to be replaced you might get by with O rings and a recharge staying with R12. Not sure what R12 prices are right now but that would probably be cheaper in the long run Or use R12 replacement.
I replaced the orifice valve at first with a variable orifice and I couldn't get it to cool real well so i bought a blue ford valve. When i took the Variable valve out I had trash on it that's why it wasn't cooling. But since I had it out replaced it anyway.
I removed all the lines and flushed with citrus AC flush For the evap I flushed it both ways as best as I could then with compressed air. Same with condensor. Installed correct O rings and added oil to new accumulator. It cools pretty well now but could probably do better. The guys at corvette Action center really helped a bunch when I did this.
Unless your compressor is locked up and has to be replaced you might get by with O rings and a recharge staying with R12. Not sure what R12 prices are right now but that would probably be cheaper in the long run Or use R12 replacement.
Last edited by CROOZ1N; Feb 17, 2012 at 12:49 PM. Reason: Added note
Racer
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From: Oxford CT
I have a 93 too and I completely rebuilt and converted my AC system to R134 last August with the help of the good folks here in C4 tech/gen. It was my first AC repair and forum member SunCR in particular is very knowledgeable and helpful.
I bought my car with a seized compressor and for the rebuild I replaced everything except the hoses and evaporator core because I read that leaving any debris in there from the previous compressor could be fatal to the new one. I purchased the tools at harbor freight and I ended building a DIY flush kit from parts at home depot so I could use about 5-10lbs of air pressure and flush solvent at the same time when tackling the evap core. I was really able to see all the junk exit using this method.
When the project was done I was able to get 39 degrees out of the top vent at cruise and around 42 at idle at 95 degree ambient temp and I couldn't be happier. Before I only drove it at night in the hot summer. Now I drive it everywhere all the time and it gets downright chilly when I cruise at night!
Mike
I bought my car with a seized compressor and for the rebuild I replaced everything except the hoses and evaporator core because I read that leaving any debris in there from the previous compressor could be fatal to the new one. I purchased the tools at harbor freight and I ended building a DIY flush kit from parts at home depot so I could use about 5-10lbs of air pressure and flush solvent at the same time when tackling the evap core. I was really able to see all the junk exit using this method.
When the project was done I was able to get 39 degrees out of the top vent at cruise and around 42 at idle at 95 degree ambient temp and I couldn't be happier. Before I only drove it at night in the hot summer. Now I drive it everywhere all the time and it gets downright chilly when I cruise at night!
Mike
Burning Brakes
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From: Niagara Falls ON
You will need to replace the orifice tube, change the ac drier, and change the o-rings. When the system is open you need to clean it out. The stuff if available through Autozone or Advanced Auto. Spray it in the ac lines, condenser, and evaporator then use compressed air to clean it out. Reassemble everything.
There is a tool available at Harbour Freight. It is designed for putting a vacuum on the system. This removes moisture and puts a vacuum on so that the R134a can get pulled into the system. Check a manual to see how much vacuum to put on it. Once that is done then you can add refrigerant.
I don't think that I missed any steps. It has been a while since I did it on my 1986.
There is a tool available at Harbour Freight. It is designed for putting a vacuum on the system. This removes moisture and puts a vacuum on so that the R134a can get pulled into the system. Check a manual to see how much vacuum to put on it. Once that is done then you can add refrigerant.
I don't think that I missed any steps. It has been a while since I did it on my 1986.
Melting Slicks
Joined: Sep 2008
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From: Cherokee National Forest TN
Take a look at this product, it works better than 134. No affiliation, I use it.
http://autorefrigerants.com/co00033.htm
http://autorefrigerants.com/co00033.htm
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From: Gainesville Florida
You will need to replace the orifice tube, change the ac drier, and change the o-rings. When the system is open you need to clean it out. The stuff if available through Autozone or Advanced Auto. Spray it in the ac lines, condenser, and evaporator then use compressed air to clean it out. Reassemble everything.
There is a tool available at Harbour Freight. It is designed for putting a vacuum on the system. This removes moisture and puts a vacuum on so that the R134a can get pulled into the system. Check a manual to see how much vacuum to put on it. Once that is done then you can add refrigerant.
I don't think that I missed any steps. It has been a while since I did it on my 1986.
There is a tool available at Harbour Freight. It is designed for putting a vacuum on the system. This removes moisture and puts a vacuum on so that the R134a can get pulled into the system. Check a manual to see how much vacuum to put on it. Once that is done then you can add refrigerant.
I don't think that I missed any steps. It has been a while since I did it on my 1986.
Ok, so those are the only steps I need to take? What brand parts do you recommend? ABout how much did all this cost you?
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Racer
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From: Oxford CT
The project was about a 1k for me. Like I said above, I bought the tools (vacuum, gauges and sniffer) from HB but I bought most of the actual AC parts from ackits.com. Don't forget to install the inline filter. I got the actual cans of r134 locally.
Cruising
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Refrigerant for 1986
Take a look at this product, it works better than 134. No affiliation, I use it.
http://autorefrigerants.com/co00033.htm
http://autorefrigerants.com/co00033.htm
