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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 07:16 PM
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I have an 85 with 50k miles with a 4+3 DN that has a little trick to get it into reverse. As long as you put it into any forward gear then shift directly into reverse, it goes in fine. If it sits in neutral for any length of time and try to shift into reverse, it grinds like hell. I have had the car for 3 years/20K miles and it's always been this way. I was so excited when I bought the car that when the PO told me about this, I could have cared less. It seemed OK to me and after all, I was buying my first Vette! Everything else was perfect.
I now have a 90 ZR1 and may have to sell the ol' 85 and while this little trick has never really bothered me, the new owner may have a concern. Syncromesh issues??? It also seems to shift a little rough over all. I had the trans and OD serviced about 10K miles ago and have not really noticed any change after. I hear that the Synthetic can sometimes smooth things out a bit. To be honest, it never really bothered me until I experienced a very smooth ZF6.
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 07:30 PM
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My 87 with the 4+3 did that same thing when I bought it. It was a worn-out clutch disc. Replaced the clutch, pressure plate, and throwout bearing and all was fine.

Don't use synthetic gear lube in either the 4-speed part or in the OD.
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by c4cruiser
My 87 with the 4+3 did that same thing when I bought it. It was a worn-out clutch disc. .

Clutch is not disengaging fully
Also check out the hydraulics;
slave cyl may not have full travel due to wear or leaks ( not uncommon ) in master or slave cyls
Be worth flushing and bleeding the system to see if it improves things
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by vetteoz

Clutch is not disengaging fully
Also check out the hydraulics;
slave cyl may not have full travel due to wear or leaks ( not uncommon ) in master or slave cyls
Be worth flushing and bleeding the system to see if it improves things
I agree
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Old Mar 6, 2012 | 08:42 AM
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Makes sense. the pedal goes all the way to the floor and begins to disengage as soon as I begin to lift. How hard is a clutch replacement?
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Old Mar 6, 2012 | 09:56 AM
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Your symptoms indicate both disc wear and/or hydraulics. Does it get easier to shift if you pump the clutch? If it does you can replace both master and slave for about $75 and $5 in brake fluid.

Good luck!
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Old Mar 6, 2012 | 10:43 AM
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I'll check the hydraulics first. Got a quote from a good shop for $800-900 to replace the clutch. Doesn't sound too bad.
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