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Old Nov 5, 2012 | 10:37 AM
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my car has just been dieing lately like its out of gas. its cranks back up. and idles good but it just dies on its own like the key was turned off or out of gas. i just put a new fuel filter on it , and a starter. when i pressed the valve on the motor its weak or just seaps.

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Old Nov 5, 2012 | 10:59 AM
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Check your in-tank electric fuel pump. Could be a dieing pump or a loose wire. Check it out.
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Old Nov 5, 2012 | 10:59 AM
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Thats unfortunate.

But, in order to help with that, we're gonna need a little more info. Like...what yr? whats been done to it? any upgrades? miles? etc...

all that stuff helps. in fact, can;t do a damn thing with out it !
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Old Nov 5, 2012 | 11:36 AM
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the often overlooked, seldom changed fuel filter ?
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Old Nov 5, 2012 | 01:25 PM
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the often overlooked, seldom changed fuel filter ?
He said he changed it. My guess is the fuel pump.
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Old Nov 5, 2012 | 01:33 PM
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Was the arrow pointing in the right flow direction upon installation?
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Old Nov 5, 2012 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by GQ-ROD
Was the arrow pointing in the right flow direction upon installation?
yes
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Old Nov 5, 2012 | 03:20 PM
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where might the fuel pump be .
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Old Nov 5, 2012 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by thebuziness
my car has just been dieing lately like its out of gas. its cranks back up. and idles good but it just dies on its own like the key was turned off or out of gas. i just put a new fuel filter on it , and a starter. when i pressed the valve on the motor its weak or just seaps.

1987 c4 corvette..
should there be allot of pressure when i push the schrader valve.
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Old Nov 5, 2012 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by leesvet
Thats unfortunate.

But, in order to help with that, we're gonna need a little more info. Like...what yr? whats been done to it? any upgrades? miles? etc...

all that stuff helps. in fact, can;t do a damn thing with out it !
sorry 87 c4. i just changed the fuel filter under passanger side by door . thought that was the problem. the next day driving same thing die and crank and go . then die . crank and go .. thanks
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Old Nov 5, 2012 | 03:39 PM
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i had that same problem i kinda still do my 84 would just die like you said its like someone turned the key off. i changed the fuel pump, fuel filter, and cleaned the lines and still something. my friend also has an 87 and he said just keep the tank full, and haven't shut off since.
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Originally Posted by thebuziness
should there be allot of pressure when i push the schrader valve.
Check your FSM to see what the residual pressure should be.

Start the engine, check your fuel pressure at idle.

compare those numbers against what should be normal indicated in your FSM, report back.

If numbers are low pressure loss could be leaks, bad pump, or bad fuel pressure regulator.

If numbers are high, possible clogged lines, or pump pulling too many amps increasing flow which may translate to slightly higher pressure down the line.

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Old Nov 5, 2012 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 84VetteMan205hp
i had that same problem i kinda still do my 84 would just die like you said its like someone turned the key off. i changed the fuel pump, fuel filter, and cleaned the lines and still something. my friend also has an 87 and he said just keep the tank full, and haven't shut off since.
I've had similiar issues just got my 84, going through the timing first to make sure that is to factory spec,

Then i'll move onto fuel pressure testing. Throttle position sensor testing etc. to narrow it down.

84's are different than later cars i've learned so the FSM is vital to get a starting point on model specific fuel systems and testing procedures in diagnosing these issues.
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Old Nov 5, 2012 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by thebuziness
where might the fuel pump be .
In the tank, underneath the fuel filler neck.
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Old Nov 6, 2012 | 09:10 AM
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should there be alot of pressure on the valve on the engine , i have tpi. i just changed the filter and put a new starter on , car was tilted alot, when i cranked it it was sluggish. but cranked and ran for a while then started stalling.

Originally Posted by GQ-ROD
Check your FSM to see what the residual pressure should be.

Start the engine, check your fuel pressure at idle.

compate those numbers against what should be normal indicated in your FSM, report back.

If numbers are low pressure loss could be leaks, bad pump, or bad fuel pressure regulator.

If numbers are high, possible clogged lines, or pump pulling too many amps increasing flow which may translate to slightly higher pressure down the line.
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Old Nov 6, 2012 | 11:59 AM
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Pull your ECM codes to see what your diagnostics are telling you. Also, as mentioned above, check the fuel pressure at the fuel rail on the passenger side of the engine. Check it out and let us know what you discover.

If you need to replace your fuel pump, follow the attached instructions. Changing the fuel pump is an easy job which should take no longer than an hour. A new Walbro pump is about $75.
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Old Nov 6, 2012 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by pmihaltian
Pull your ECM codes to see what your diagnostics are telling you. Also, as mentioned above, check the fuel pressure at the fuel rail on the passenger side of the engine. Check it out and let us know what you discover.

If you need to replace your fuel pump, follow the attached instructions. Changing the fuel pump is an easy job which should take no longer than an hour. A new Walbro pump is about $75.

Great attachment. I just replaced my fuel pump and that misses nothing at all.

Codes should always be checked first. I believe your year can still do the "paperclip trick".

It definately sounds like you are running out of fuel. You can run to an auto parts store and get a GM fuel pressure tester. Turn the car on and the pump should prime to 32 PSI. Turn the key back on and come back in 15 minutes. You should have lost no more than a few pounds. Come back in an hour and it should still have some pressure. Maybe about 20 PSI? *someone confirm?*

My bet is on the fuel pump.
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Old Nov 6, 2012 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by thebuziness
should there be alot of pressure on the valve on the engine , i have tpi. i just changed the filter and put a new starter on , car was tilted alot, when i cranked it it was sluggish. but cranked and ran for a while then started stalling.
Not sure what you mean by pressure ON THE VALVE, which valve?

Intake or exhaust does not matter for fuel pressure.

Being tilted doesn't affect fuel pressure.

As has been mentioned pull your codes, stalling is usually lack of fuel or pressure, vacuum leak, or poor spark or timing.

Sluggish while cranking means weak battery or poor battery/starter connections.
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Old Nov 6, 2012 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by GQ-ROD
Not sure what you mean by pressure ON THE VALVE, which valve?

Intake or exhaust does not matter for fuel pressure.

Being tilted doesn't affect fuel pressure.

As has been mentioned pull your codes, stalling is usually lack of fuel or pressure, vacuum leak, or poor spark or timing.

Sluggish while cranking means weak battery or poor battery/starter connections.
I think he is talking about the schrader valve on the fuel rail. It should have pressure, yes, but that isnt a good way to know how much pressure is there. Really all that tells you is that there is fuel at the rail. You need to get a fuel pressure gauge for a gm vehicle and it will screw on that fitting you are pressing on and give you exact pressure
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thank you so much .
this is valuable . i really apprecieate.

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