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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 07:30 PM
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hey so i just bought a 95 vette this past weekend i went to register it out here in Cali. (in the military) and it failed the smog test..it passed all the main components up at the top of page (ex. pcv,egr, o2 sensor,cat converter, etc.) but my HC failed ( max is 34 i scored a 565) and CO% (max .32 mine got 11.31) i know emissions are very hard to tell whats wrong just by me saying what it failed for but if anyone could give me an idea, or any help it would be much appriciated. or if someone knows of a shop where i can pay to have it passed
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 08:14 PM
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Do you have a stock chip? Cats?
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 09:21 PM
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yes n yes. nothing done w the car
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 10:20 PM
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A quick and easy (not cheap) way of passing is a new set of cats.
That'll get you through the test and afterwards you can do further troubleshooting.
Also burn down the fuel and add some alcohol to swing the HC down some more.

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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 10:24 PM
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First, fill out the forms and get $500 towards repairs from the State.
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 11:50 PM
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This is labor intensive, but costs nothing and I'm not saying you necessarily want to do this, but on my 96, when I dropped the exhaust from the rear of the cats and shone a light up into them, the passenger side cat honeycomb was in perfect shape; the driver's side honeycomb was completely gone. nothin. nada.... A new cat and a good tune up and that car sailed through California smog.

people often assume high HC is the result of an overly rich fuel mixture ...and it ain't always necessarily so. A lean misfire condition can play havoc ; on my 86 work truck with a 460 c.i. engine and no cats the HC dropped from 1320 to 180 after I plugged various small and not so small vacumn leaks. Again this is usually an inexpensive fix involving rubber vacumn hoses, tightening down bolts etc. One tip, check and verify that the the plastic vacumn brake booster can hold vacumn . If the internal diaphram fails or if the case cracks on the backside, it may not be readily apparent.

if it isn't the cheap stuff, then it's probably time to start replacing parts.

good luck.
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Just to add to previous post also take some time and clean the sensors like MAP/MAF intake, new air filter, fresh oil change and even a new set of plugs won't hurt. I lived in California for 35 years and drove older cars. The smog test are not a bad thing they actually help you keep your car in good running condition. Also never take the test with a cold engine. Some people drive from their house to the test station and don't let the car warm up. Every little bit helps. If you still can't get it to pass I know a great shop in Hemet, Ca that can help, they passed my 92 with blown head gaskets, not sure how but it passed...lol
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First, fill out the forms and get $500 towards repairs from the State.
where do get these forms??
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also i plan on really getting into the car over the next few days bc im off work and wont be making it home for thanksgiving. thank you everyone for the insight and after the works done ill let you know how i make out
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Is your home of record in Cali?
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Originally Posted by MonteHall
Is your home of record in Cali?
Not sure that matters.
If you buy and register in kali, YOU MUST OBEY!

Now if he bought it here and had the car registered in his state of record.
That's different.

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Originally Posted by SeabeeC4
where do get these forms??
When I was doing smog it was $450 but it most likely went up. You have to spend $500 first and then you can apply for assistance for whatever else is spent to a certain amount. The state will only go to a set amount, they then offer to buy your car, cheap.
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Originally Posted by JrRifleCoach
Not sure that matters.
If you buy and register in kali, YOU MUST OBEY!

Now if he bought it here and had the car registered in his state of record.
That's different.

Right. I have to register my 84 in Indiana because TX has emissions testing
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Military is exempt from CA Registration as long as their Home State grants the same exemption to CA military residents stationed in your Home State.

Your Vette is rich and I'm surprised it doesn't stink which kinda lessens the cool factor (regardless of where it's registered or driven). Scan it and see what the O2's are sensing. If it's lean, air is flowing pass the O2 from an exhaust or vacuum leak which tricks it into dumping fuel it doesn't need.
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im from NJ wouldnt i need to take the car there to register it??
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Start here: http://www.state.nj.us/mvc/Licenses/military.htm Looks like there's a phone #. Local Jag should be able to help you too.
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of course, NJ has testing too, so that might not help you as much as you'd think.
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Originally Posted by SeabeeC4
im from NJ wouldnt i need to take the car there to register it??
If you bought the car in CA, the seller is responsible for the emissions testing. It was that way from 1980-1997 when I lived there full time.

Mick
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Old Nov 29, 2012 | 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by QZRBLU
If you bought the car in CA, the seller is responsible for the emissions testing. It was that way from 1980-1997 when I lived there full time.

Mick
That's 100% correct, the seller must provide Smog Cert in CA. Prob nothing you can do afte the fact, though.
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