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Old Jan 9, 2013 | 08:07 AM
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Here's a wierd one.

Several months ago my PKE started acting wierd. The fob stopped working and sometimes the PKE light would come on while I was driving. Every now and then the rear hatch would open all by itself while the car was sitting in the driveway. Once I walked out to find the hatch open and the latch clicking about once per second. I got in and started the car and the clicking stopped. That hasn't happened for several months now. Since then, sometimes, when I turn on the headlights I get a PKE light for a few seconds.

This brings us to 2 nights ago. I'm driving down the road and suddenly the hatch pops open and the latch is clicking. I pulled over and for some reason I turned off the high beams. The clicking stopped and the PKE light came on. I closed the hatch and whent on my way. The PKE light stayed on for the next two hours until stopped and shut the car off. The PKE light went off. It hasn't come on since.

Any idea what the headlights have to do with the PKE?
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Old Jan 10, 2013 | 12:09 PM
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My 96 CE developed PKE jitters in about 2002. The trunk lid only auto-opened once, but the door locks would chatter without any reason or rhyme. It never did so with the ignition key off. I chased the problem for several years with no sucess. IN exaperation, I finally pulled the PKA fuse and stopped using the key fob. I posted my situation at least five times here and never got a reply that lead anywhere. The best guess I got was that the body control module is the culpret - and it's located waaay deep in the dash. (removal of the entire dash is required to gain access). Best of luck tracking the gremlin!
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Old Jan 10, 2013 | 03:21 PM
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The BCM is actually the CCM. The CCM interfaces with the PKE module. The interaction is to arm and dis-arm the security and to lock and un-lock the doors. There is no real commands from the CCM to light the PKE lamp or pop the hatch. The circuits and relays for the electronic door lock to activate come from the PKE as so does the hatch control.

With strange problems like these (weird and makes no sense) after troubleshooting for extensive time and nothing comes up solid, sometimes you have to try the most logical part and replace it in order to move forward and do some elimination. In these cases I would replace the PKE module and see if any positive effect is gained. There is a high chance it could be defective and you will be fixed.

If you don’t want the try to replace it, then you might be living with these problems for the rest of your days instead of enjoying the benefits of things working correctly. And don’t tell me how much it cost and the hours of work involved. I know first hand all too well.
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Thanks for the input. Where is the PKE module located? And how ugly is it to R&R?
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I'll fix it one of these days. I was just wondering what the headlights had to do with it.
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Old Jan 10, 2013 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by cire96
Thanks for the input. Where is the PKE module located? And how ugly is it to R&R?
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I'll fix it one of these days. I was just wondering what the headlights had to do with it.
Top center of the dash behind the center vent. The top pad has to come off along with lots of other items all in proper order. You might need the weekend the first time. Having a FSM is almost a necessity.

The headlights have no relationship and I can't even comment how they might. The CCM does drive the hi-beam indicator but that is a stretch.
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Maybe I should start seriously working on this before the car blows up.

Today I was driving down the road, 65 mph, head lights on and cruise control on. The PKE light and the interior lights came on for no reason. I turned the headlights off and on but the PKE light and interior lights stayed on. They didn't go off until I stopped, shut the car off and re-started it. Very strange.
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Originally Posted by oilyfishhead
Maybe I should start seriously working on this before the car blows up.

Today I was driving down the road, 65 mph, head lights on and cruise control on. The PKE light and the interior lights came on for no reason. I turned the headlights off and on but the PKE light and interior lights stayed on. They didn't go off until I stopped, shut the car off and re-started it. Very strange.
I had a similar problem in my '94...check ALL your grounds, I had 2 bad/iffy ones - repaired them and problem solved. YMMV, of course. If you don't have a FSM search for a copy of the ground locations.
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on checking the grounds. 2 major ones are driver side foot well, outer frame, behind and above speaker and driver side bell housing bolt to engine.

Also, check door switches --- use the FSM and CCM inputs testing proceedure -- or, check via interior lights coming on/radio going off when door is open.

The door switches send an electrical signal to the CCM, which it interpretes and sends signals to various other components. If it is failing electrically (shorting out inside due to water intrusion), it can incorrectly tell the CCM the door is open, even when it is closed. Also, its adjustable 'nose' can be pushed in all the way causing it to not depress suffficiently to compensate for body flex while driving, again, incorrectly telling the CCM the door is open.

btw, if the switch(es) are bad, they can be replaced right through their hole, without haing to take the door apart.
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Yep, good catch on those door switches...mine were good, so I didn't think to mention them.
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