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Old Apr 11, 2013 | 03:08 PM
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I would love to see pics of the machined rubber bushings. And maybe a contact?

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Old Apr 11, 2013 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by tdishon
I would love to see pics of the machined rubber bushings. And maybe a contact?
It's an easy piece to do in a lathe,using a poly as reference every machinist in a common shop can machine a one-piece rubber bushing instead of a two piece poly (talking about front a arm bushing).You have to source a rubber rod 2" diameter to machine and... to pay
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Old Apr 11, 2013 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by tunedport85inject
It's an easy piece to do in a lathe,using a poly as reference every machinist in a common shop can machine a one-piece rubber bushing instead of a two piece poly (talking about front a arm bushing).You have to source a rubber rod 2" diameter to machine and... to pay
If your friend wanted to make some money i'm sure he would have C4 owners lined up to buy them.
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here some pics of the finished parts










As you can see the bushing it's a simple part,he had to machine external diameter and inside diameter for the metal bushing and the grove
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After it was machined, did it press in ok? Looks like the lip would be a PIA to get in there.
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Originally Posted by tdishon
I have new poly bushings in the control arms, but am learning that poly is great for compression, but not rotational movement. I lube the hell out of those puppies.
When I was assembling my suspension with poly, my first step was to ensure the pivot points were not in a bind.
Almost all of the bushings required machining to properly fit their designed movement.
Frankly if you soaked these in whale blubber they will squeak like an old railroad car if not properly installed.
Still my suspension does make noise. And when it does, a liberal dose of silicone spray helps to reduce it.

I also added a set of Borlas which assists to divert my attention.


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Old Apr 11, 2013 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by JrRifleCoach
When I was assembling my suspension with poly, my first step was to ensure the pivot points were not in a bind.
Almost all of the bushings required machining to properly fit their designed movement.
Frankly if you soaked these in whale blubber they will squeak like an old railroad car if not properly installed.
Still my suspension does make noise. And when it does, a liberal dose of silicone spray helps to reduce it.

I also added a set of Borlas which assists to divert my attention.

Pathetic you have to jump through this poly hoop because Chevy didn't come up with a solution for replaceable rubber bushings. When mine give up the ghost i'll probably bite the bullet and buy new control arms.
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Old Apr 11, 2013 | 07:32 PM
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I have a 1986 front suspension. I don't think I have the option to buy new arms with stock bushings. If I can't get rubber ones made, I will install Zerks.
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Old Apr 11, 2013 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by LoneStarV
If your friend wanted to make some money i'm sure he would have C4 owners lined up to buy them.
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Originally Posted by tdishon
After it was machined, did it press in ok? Looks like the lip would be a PIA to get in there.
He said he had to make some trial to get a balanced interference between outer interference, rubber to A arm, and inner interference with the metal bushing. As you can see he used the lathe wise and mandrel to press in the bushing.He said wasn't a PITA press in the bushing,just silicone oil and a pre- warming in hot water.

he did the bushings by himself becouse he has a machine shop,a simple task for him,just buying a rod of industrial rubber and some hours labor saturday afternoon.Probably in future if lot of C4 ower want rubber bushing some vendor will put in production this stuff...

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Also i think when you buy poly bushing you know this stuff is harder than stock,squeeks are on the list of compromises..btw lot of guys here haven't any issue with noises...i think a good greasing is the key,zerks are a good investment for future and a good grove machined on the poly to allow grease dridtributes itself is good too. When you put stuff like this you have to think about confort and cruise....




beautyfull stuff for autoX...but on the street ...Lot of good materials out there for stiffer sharp handling, never heard about Delrin or Teflon bushing?...or this aluminum/teflon on pics, but you know what you put into your car...

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Old Apr 12, 2013 | 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by tunedport85inject
He said he had to make some trial to get a balanced interference between outer interference, rubber to A arm, and inner interference with the metal bushing. As you can see he used the lathe wise and mandrel to press in the bushing.He said wasn't a PITA press in the bushing,just silicone oil and a pre- warming in hot water.

he did the bushings by itself becouse he has a machine shop,a simple task for him,just buying a rod of industrial rubber and some hours labor saturday afternoon.Probably in future if lot of C4 ower want rubber bushing some vendor will put in production this stuff...
I wouldn't hold my breath on some vendor doing what your friend did. The C4 has been out for 29 years and all you can get is poly.
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I also added a set of Borlas which assists to divert my attention.

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Originally Posted by Aardwolf

The bottom is more involved. A hole needs to be drilled in the flange metal to access the zerk.
I angled drilled my lowers to put the zerk in a user friendly location.

I also grooved and added zerks to all my poly bushings, no noise what so ever.


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Damn, Agent! You and your '86 are my hero
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Originally Posted by AGENT 86
I angled drilled my lowers to put the zerk in a user friendly location.

I also grooved and added zerks to all my poly bushings, no noise what so ever.

That is a sick amount of work you have done on your suspension. WOW!
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Damn..Agent this is a litteraly piece of pure art...you have to wrap it in plastic forever

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Damn..Agent this is a litteraly piece of pure art...you have to wrap it in plastic forever
His car and your avatar.
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Originally Posted by LoneStarV
Chevy didn't come up with a solution for replaceable rubber bushings. When mine give up the ghost i'll probably bite the bullet and buy new control arms.
Good luck justifiying that bill.
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