Clutch opinions...

I will post pics soon but was wondering what an all around good clutch would be for the $$ and Strength, Streetability Ect. I was looking into a Spec Stage3+ that holds 842ft lbs. Any opinions or hands on experience? I wanna hold at least 800 ft lbs tq. Thanks!!!

I want to caution you about using "too much" clutch in a C4 Corvette. Honestly what I have is too much clutch IMO.... I have what I have because back in the day I didn't know any better... After 4 years with my 92 and this engine I've learned alot and it's been an expensive education. I like the SPEC Stage 3 but it's very unforgiving.
These bad *** street clutches lock up and hit the driveline like a ton of bricks... With traction you can break something in the rear end with just a little bit of power. You really have to drive these clutches off the line by slipping them... or by just rolling the car out of the gate off idle.... then you need to be careful about the 2nd gear shift.
Over the past 4 years, I have destroyed 2 D44HDs in my 92 and a number of halfshafts and halfshaft U-Joints by getting greedy with the launch on a good track prep day. I've only made about 125 passes in the car and driven it about 10,000 miles with this engine in 4yrs time because for a while it was broken after every track outing.
I honestly have plans to detune it and install a SPEC Stage 2+ clutch in it. Been busy with campaining my real race car this year so the 92 is relegated to weekend street driving and no more track days.
So basically you have 2 choices.
1) Run a bad *** clutch and be easy on it off the line and on gear changes.
2) Run a soft hitting clutch and know your gonna eventually over HP it and have to replace it.
Will
Ive been running spec stage 3+ clutch. Im happy with that product. I recently installed another one (one of the springs broke out - prob due to gear noise, which I corrected with thicker countershaft shim from zfdoc).
Great bite and very streetable.
I broke the center out of a spec stage 2 'kevlar' clutch and needed a tow home back in 2006. So dont use that one. Other than that I liked the clutch.
Some of the 'puck type' cluches (i think spec stage 3 is one) ive heard can be a real handful. They either grab or dont. Its tough to slip it off the line.
You want a 'spung hub' type clutch. Sprung hub dampens gear noise and driveline shock (to some extent - its still very possible to exceed what a sprung hub can dampen).
Dont believe all the BS thats out there. SPEC is makng a good product.
As for driveline shock...you want a sprung hub type clutch.
Get rid of the dual mass if you havent already. Its a heavy PO$ better suited as a boat anchor.
i recommend the alum. flywheel.
THe noise everyone talks about is not from the flywheel, its from the transmission. So if you have 'noise' then put in a thicker countershaft shim (zfdoc).
The thcker countershaft shim eliminated my trans noise that I had been told (incorrectly) is a consequnce of the alum. flywheel. Turns out the noise shouldnt be there, just that it is better masked by the dual-mass flywheel.
for what its worth here's what my clutch job entailed:
good used C beam (torque arm) Dino's corvette salvage: $150
Spec Stage 3 plus clutch, SC423YF: $619
Spec flywheel SC05S: $299
roller pin style pilot bearing, Summit: $13.49
Throw out bearing (GM) Ecklers 50583: $89.99
flywheel bolts, Summit: $14.75
rear crank shaft seal, NAPA: ?
rear transmission tailshaft seal, NAPA: $12
modify shifter ZFdoc: $165
rebuild shifter assembly, ZFdoc: $45
heavy duty tailshaft housing bushing, ZFdoc: $40
beam plates, fabbed my own: N/C
clutch fork VintageParts 10085210: $141.62
clutch fork mounting ball stud, VintageParts 10227809: $44.09
retainer, clutch release bearing collar, VintageParts 10111569: $13.49
also, replaced clutch master cylinder and clutch slave cylinder.
A further note, to get adequate throw on the clutch pedal to displace sufficient fluid to allow proper throwout bearing travel (0.250 to 0.315 inch per ZFdoc) I had to replace the thick spacer between the clutch master cylinder and the firewall with one approximately half as thick.
THe noise everyone talks about is not from the flywheel, its from the transmission. So if you have 'noise' then put in a thicker countershaft shim (zfdoc).
The thcker countershaft shim eliminated my trans noise that I had been told (incorrectly) is a consequnce of the alum. flywheel. Turns out the noise shouldnt be there, just that it is better masked by the dual-mass flywheel.
because my ol' McLeod street twin & alum flywheel combo is hella loud and hits like a mack truck!!
Spec stage 3+ is actually going to be a more streetable clutch than stage 3.
Its full friction disk with a sprung hub.
I still have a light rapping sound at neutral, but all the driving noises are gone with the shim installed.
Btw. I'm not always a fan of all of jim's advice. I'm not sure where he gets his strong opinions from but he's really bad mouthing some of our supporting vendors.
There might be some truth to some of it, but not 'the sky is falling' chicken-little like he claims.
Last edited by dizwiz24; Jun 7, 2013 at 10:32 PM.














