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Old Jun 14, 2013 | 07:55 PM
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Is it possible to need two different size pushrods?
I went to check pushrod length on the 350 roller I’m building with an adjustable length checker.
I’m running Trickflow Twisted Wedge heads with the required Crane Gold 11750-16 roller rockers.
On cylinder #1 I found the right length/geometry for the exhaust valve and locked the checker in place with the two nuts.
I then put the checker on the intake valve and it was impossible to get any preload.
In order to get any preload and correct geometry I had to lengthen the rod three turns. Is this at all possible or am I doing something wrong?
Keep in mind I have not done this before so I could very well be doing it wrong.
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Old Jun 14, 2013 | 08:30 PM
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You need to change to lighter valve springs. When you are checking your geometry, your lifters are probably collapsing when riding high on the cam lobe.
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Old Jun 14, 2013 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by My1st
Is it possible to need two different size pushrods?
In order to get any preload and correct geometry I had to lengthen the rod three turns.
Is this at all possible or am I doing something wrong?
Due to the 13 degree angle on the intake valve would appear you are not the 1st to have this problem
http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/1st-...ml#post1405940

http://www.chevelles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17310
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Old Jun 14, 2013 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by vetteoz
Due to the 13 degree angle on the intake valve would appear you are not the 1st to have this problem
http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/1st-...ml#post1405940

http://www.chevelles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17310
I do have the Gen 1 heads and the instruction/parts list sheet that came with them. I’m using the correct rockers so from what I’m ready I’ll need two different length pushrods? My came is only .501 lift and when I checked c –v clearance the intake didn’t leave an impression in the clay and the exhaust barely did so I have plenty of clearance.
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Are you using a checker spring on all or the regular valvespring?

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Originally Posted by cuisinartvette
Are you using a checker spring on all or the regular valvespring?

Re:383 vettes post.
I’m using the regular springs. Everything I’ve read and the videos I’ve seen on YouTube are using the regular springs as well. It was my understanding that the check springs are used when checking piston to valve clearance if you do not have a solid lifter. When I checked mine I welded up a hydraulic lifter.
If I’m doing this incorrectly can someone explain the proper procedure?
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Have always used a checking spring that tool can flex and break pretty easy. Are you using a solid type lifter or the hydraulics?
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Hydraulic full roller's.
Does anyone know how reliable the Proform mockup rocker arm pushrod checker is?

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Just thought of something, I’m running a single-pattern cam 224@50 with .501 lift would that have anything thing to do with the rod length?
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Checker spring should be fine thats what you want to check it with
Bet you get the correct measurements now. single or split pattern cam is irrelevant
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These Twisted Wedge heads are a PITA. I’ve used several different markers, Prussian blue, and checking springs and can’t get enough impression on the valve steam to tell if it’s centered or how wide it is.
WHAT IS BLUING? Only thing I haven’t tried. About ready to put the motor in the back of the Suburban and take it to a builder or go to a different head…
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Originally Posted by My1st
These Twisted Wedge heads are a PITA. I’ve used several different markers, Prussian blue, and checking springs and can’t get enough impression on the valve steam to tell if it’s centered or how wide it is.
WHAT IS BLUING? Only thing I haven’t tried. About ready to put the motor in the back of the Suburban and take it to a builder or go to a different head…
I have always used the 44MAG or Sharpie King Size, black or blue markers to check rocker geometry.

Once you get the rocker your checking near max lift roll the engine back forth (forward and backwards) to and past max lift 5-6 times... You'll have a nice pattern to see.

Those cyl heads were discontinued after a fairly short production run.... Lots of problems. I hate to say it but, no one I know that ever built an engine with them was very happy with them. The SBF version is one of the greatest street cyl heads ever built but the SBC version was not.
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