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Old Sep 28, 2013 | 05:27 PM
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Hello everybody. I own a 1984 4 plus 3 Corvette. A couple of weeks ago I ported the manifold. Car ran great. Today it ran AWFUL. I can start the car and when it is at operating temperature and 900/1000 rpm it is pulling 20 inches of vacuum. When I start to go it stalls out. It can idle for ever but once I start driving it wants to stall and usually does. The TPS is at 0.5 volts at idle. Any ideas. I am thinking fuel pump but I put one in about 800 miles ago. Regulators? I have a shop manual. Thank you
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Start by pulling the codes
http://www.corvettephotographs.com/c4vettes/codes.htm

Check the fuel pressure
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The CEL did not come on. Check fuel pressure. Disconnect fuel line. Place pressure gauge on line. Crank engine. Correct?
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I also have the winald software
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Old Sep 28, 2013 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by jseremba
The CEL did not come on.
Does the light come on when you 1st turn the key on?
Does the bulb work?

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Disconnect fuel line. Place pressure gauge on line. Crank engine. Correct?
You say you have the shop manual .The correct test procedures are documented there
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Old Sep 28, 2013 | 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by vetteoz
Does the light come on when you 1st turn the key on?
Does the bulb work?


You say you have the shop manual .The correct test procedures are documented there
good question the cel light does work. But it did not come on even when I limped home. Chapter 5 is on fuel. It talked a lot about the TBI but not the pump. I will check again
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I had an 84 and the cat converter clogged up. The car would idle fine but barely moved, it was really smothered down.

Look to see if it glows red after the car runs for a few minutes. This will not set a code.

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Originally Posted by shawn 84&92
I had an 84 and the cat converter clogged up. The car would idle fine but barely moved, it was really smothered down.

Look to see if it glows red after the car runs for a few minutes. This will not set a code.

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So I located the diagnostics in the shop manual. It said to apply 12 volts to terminal G on the ALDI. So I did that. and the pump did not run. But when I apply 12 volts to the pump connector the pump runs. The fuse is good. I seperated the connector at the relay under the hood and put a test lamp to the leads. I get a completed circuit but no pump running.
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So I decided to see if the car would run. I poured gas into the TBIs and the car ran and the TBIs pulsed.
Could the poor performance be the IACs reacting to the porting.
But then why didn't the pump run when I used the OBD1 connector port to power the pump
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Originally Posted by jseremba
why didn't the pump run when I used the OBD1 connector port to power the pump
The ALDL terminal uses the same wiring back to the pump , all it does it let you run the pump with the key off.
You may have a fault/ break in the wiring from the fuse to the tank
If the fuse is confirmed good , put a DVM between each of the fuse terminals and the tank connector and see if you get continuity.
If not you know where your problem lies
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Originally Posted by vetteoz
The ALDL terminal uses the same wiring back to the pump , all it does it let you run the pump with the key off.
You may have a fault/ break in the wiring from the fuse to the tank
If the fuse is confirmed good , put a DVM between each of the fuse terminals and the tank connector and see if you get continuity.
If not you know where your problem lies
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I went to my shop manual and the decision tree says if g does not run pump check circuit 120. Which is what you said to do. So that is my next step. Thank you
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Originally Posted by jseremba
I went to my shop manual and the decision tree says if g does not run pump check circuit 120.
FWIW ,
Terminal G puts power in through the relay so you may need to check the wiring out from the relay connector to the fuse as well.



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Big help. Thank you
when it comes to circuits I am so lame
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Circuit 120 runs from ALDL terminal G to the pump. The fuse is that fuse the fuse box or inline. What is between the fuse and the pump. Fuse able link. Sorry I just don't yet understand electronic short hand.
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Originally Posted by jseremba
The fuse is that fuse the fuse box or inline. What is between the fuse and the pump.
A wire.
The pump fuse is in the fuse panel

The fusible link is on the power wire ( battery feed in diagram ) that supplies the pump.
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Thank you I will check it all this weekend
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Originally Posted by jseremba
Hello everybody. I own a 1984 4 plus 3 Corvette. A couple of weeks ago I ported the manifold. Car ran great. Today it ran AWFUL. I can start the car and when it is at operating temperature and 900/1000 rpm it is pulling 20 inches of vacuum. When I start to go it stalls out. It can idle for ever but once I start driving it wants to stall and usually does. The TPS is at 0.5 volts at idle. Any ideas. I am thinking fuel pump but I put one in about 800 miles ago. Regulators? I have a shop manual. Thank you
you didn't indicate what the fuel pressure was or if it stayed up...I had a similar problem....went through the same trouble shooting guide...I also had recently installed a new pump...if pressure is an issue...look where it says to pinch off the pressure and return lines at your tank...I had a loose connection between pump and pulsator...started/ idle ok...wouldn't go....that part will tell you whether it's the pump or regulator...if your pressure stays up, ignore my 2 cents....
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Originally Posted by playsdixie
you didn't indicate what the fuel pressure was or if it stayed up...I had a similar problem....went through the same trouble shooting guide...I also had recently installed a new pump...if pressure is an issue...look where it says to pinch off the pressure and return lines at your tank...I had a loose connection between pump and pulsator...started/ idle ok...wouldn't go....that part will tell you whether it's the pump or regulator...if your pressure stays up, ignore my 2 cents....
no way would I ignore your help. Thank you so much. Every bit is a big help
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