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Old Nov 1, 2013 | 03:25 PM
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Since you have a plain silver label on the EPROM, it was probably reprogrammed already. That means that we have no idea what is in there. The only way to find out is to remove the EPROM from the MEMCAL and read it electronically. Do you know anybody who can do that? If not, a store that sells electronic parts should be able to read it. If you can do that, have them email the .BIN file to you or put it on a thumb drive.

When you have the .BIN file you can change the extension from .BIN to .TXT and read it in Notepad or some other text editor. When you do that it will look like this:

1F080D6200A697F632… and many more.

The 32 is the important number. It's for Corvettes with the 1227165 ECM. Since your MEMCAL came from a different car that number might be different.
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Old Nov 1, 2013 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Cliff Harris
Since you have a plain silver label on the EPROM, it was probably reprogrammed already. That means that we have no idea what is in there. The only way to find out is to remove the EPROM from the MEMCAL and read it electronically. Do you know anybody who can do that? If not, a store that sells electronic parts should be able to read it. If you can do that, have them email the .BIN file to you or put it on a thumb drive.

When you have the .BIN file you can change the extension from .BIN to .TXT and read it in Notepad or some other text editor. When you do that it will look like this:

1F080D6200A697F632… and many more.

The 32 is the important number. It's for Corvettes with the 1227165 ECM. Since your MEMCAL came from a different car that number might be different.
unfortunately. I don't know any body that can to or provide that service here in the banana republic.
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Old Nov 2, 2013 | 10:43 AM
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Did you try scanning the car using vin code F? That is what's required for a Camaro. If it is as Cliff suggested a Camaro memcal it may scan. What's funny is I'm using a Corvette base AXCR and it scans using Vin F, but mine is speed density.
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Old Nov 2, 2013 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by MrWillys
Did you try scanning the car using vin code F? That is what's required for a Camaro. If it is as Cliff suggested a Camaro memcal it may scan. What's funny is I'm using a Corvette base AXCR and it scans using Vin F, but mine is speed density.
I just config my scanner

the new setup

maker GM
year. I type in 86
I enter Vin F

after that the scanner ask 5.0 yes or no. I enter yes.

I will used in my car later this afeternoon
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Old Nov 2, 2013 | 12:14 PM
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One moment new finding here.

I got my self a magnifying glass. put the ship on the window with a clear sun light

I got to read the following on the silver tag

DELCO
BUC
9558 or 8558 not sure about this last one. hard to see the first digit

so I guest the ship is ok
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Old Nov 2, 2013 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by hitmanpty
One moment new finding here.

I got my self a magnifying glass. put the ship on the window with a clear sun light

I got to read the following on the silver tag

DELCO
BUC
9558 or 8558 not sure about this last one. hard to see the first digit

so I guest the ship is ok
yep, BUC is good for an 86 Corvette. If it will not scan then something is wrong though.

http://www.chevythunder.com/prom_bcc_1986.htm
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Old Nov 3, 2013 | 01:44 AM
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Let's go back to the SES light not flashing. Maybe there is a problem in the wiring between the ALDL connector and the ECM.

ALDL pin A should connect to ground.

ALDL pin B should connect to ECM pin A9.

One way to test this is to measure the voltage from ALDL pin A to ALDL pin B. It should be 5 volts (it comes from the ECM).
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Old Nov 3, 2013 | 10:13 AM
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CLIFF I delite your messege by and accident. but here is the aswer to voltage test

Ok just test the A and B terminal on the ALDL. the reding is 5.02 volts.

regarding the SES light going off when the ingine is running. I haven got a chance to try that. remeber my baterry is to weak to start the engine. so I will recharge today. it will take into tomorrow to be fully charge
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Old Nov 3, 2013 | 11:11 PM
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The connection between the ALDL connector and the ECM appears to be OK.

Next test: Short A & B and turn on the ignition. Don't start the engine. That should make the SES light flash out the error codes.

Here is a YouTube video that shows what this looks like (not a Corvette, but still good information):


There is a list of the error codes and what causes them on my web site:

http://home.earthlink.net/~cliff_har...onditions.html

These are specific to 1986, but also apply to other years.

Last edited by Cliff Harris; Nov 3, 2013 at 11:14 PM.
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Old Nov 4, 2013 | 08:19 AM
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hey after viewing the video I find out I was doing one step the wrong way

original what I do is jump the terminals and them turn key to on position

the way they doit on the video is turn the key to on position and them jump the terminal

when I get my battery charge at noon I will doit that way see what happend.

them I guest it have to be done the same way with the scanner
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Old Nov 4, 2013 | 01:30 PM
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Just got my battery back

SES light is on when key in on position and when the engine is running also

did the aldl test with the key in on position . them I ground the a&b terminal on aldl. light no flashing. just stay on.

also did the test grond the a &b terminal and after that trun the key to on. same result. light on no flash
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Old Nov 4, 2013 | 02:16 PM
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When the car is running can you scan it?
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Old Nov 4, 2013 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWillys
When the car is running can you scan it?
nop...........
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Old Nov 4, 2013 | 04:07 PM
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have you used the scanner on another car with success?
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Old Nov 4, 2013 | 04:09 PM
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Try this:
http://www.chevythunder.com/SES%20chart%20A-2.htm
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Old Nov 5, 2013 | 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by MrWillys
That procedure seems strange to me. The step after plugging the ECM back in says ALDL not grounded. I think it should say terminals A & B connected or terminal B grounded (same thing). I just read the FSM, and it says to ground circuit 451 (ALDL pin B) with a test light (which should light because of the 5 volts coming out of the ECM to pin B), which is the same as connecting A & B together. That step is missing from the above link.

I know you have a FSM. There is a troubleshooting procedure for SES light on all the time on page 6E3-A-20. I think you might have already been there, but I mention it just in case... ;-)
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Old Nov 5, 2013 | 11:52 AM
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i have the same problem with my 1994 c4, 16 valve motor.
scanner wont read my car. almost like its not connecting. works on my other car though. strange.
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Old Nov 5, 2013 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by shmansen
i have the same problem with my 1994 c4, 16 valve motor.
scanner wont read my car. almost like its not connecting. works on my other car though. strange.
Doesn't the 94 have a special obd2 type 16 pin that may require a special scanner? While still obd1 it has a flashable pcm with an odd connector.
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Old Nov 5, 2013 | 05:22 PM
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lets forget about the scanner for a moment. and go back to basic. why i get nothing when i jump terminals a & b on the aldl?????
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Old Nov 5, 2013 | 06:03 PM
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when i jump my A and B all it flashes is code 12 but if i hook up my obd1 scanner it reads 10 codes
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