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Old Oct 13, 2013 | 11:32 AM
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couple days ago I buy my self a auto x ray xp 240

here is a link on ebay in case you wander
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251310013824...84.m1439.l2649

I have a 1986 vette. also my check ingine light never had work.

when I connect the scanner I get and error. it say. the scanner can not comunicated with the car. read the manual.

I read the manual 20 times allready and the set up is good

why do I get and error. I can not get codes or scan the car
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Old Oct 13, 2013 | 12:58 PM
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When you configured it for a GM 86 did you enter the 8th vin digit?
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Old Oct 14, 2013 | 12:44 PM
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When you configured it for a GM 86 did you enter the 8th vin digit?
yes I did. after that the scanner ask me for the 4 digi also. and after that it ask me if my motor was 5.7. yes or no. I aswer yes

tell me if a bad check engine light volt. will affect the scanner
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Old Oct 14, 2013 | 02:26 PM
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yes I did. after that the scanner ask me for the 4 digi also. and after that it ask me if my motor was 5.7. yes or no. I aswer yes

tell me if a bad check engine light volt. will affect the scanner
The bulb in the SES light shouldn't affect the scanner. My initial thought would be a bad ecm, or circuit from the ecm to the aldl. see if this helps:
http://www.chevythunder.com/Flow%20c...roubleshooting Flow Chart Pages
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Old Oct 14, 2013 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWillys
The bulb in the SES light shouldn't affect the scanner. My initial thought would be a bad ecm, or circuit from the ecm to the aldl. see if this helps:
http://www.chevythunder.com/Flow%20c...roubleshooting Flow Chart Pages
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Old Oct 15, 2013 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by MrWillys
My initial thought would be a bad ecm, or circuit from the ecm to the aldl.
Try pulling the codes the factory way
http://www.corvettephotographs.com/c4vettes/codes.htm

If you can get the SES to flash by jumpering the ALDL connector you know the circuit is good (assuming your SES bulb is good ? )
Does the light come on when you 1st turn the Ign on as it should?
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Old Oct 15, 2013 | 04:17 PM
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Try pulling the codes the factory way
http://www.corvettephotographs.com/c4vettes/codes.htm

If you can get the SES to flash by jumpering the ALDL connector you know the circuit is good (assuming your SES bulb is good ? )
Does the light come on when you 1st turn the Ign on as it should?
the light never come on. not when I jump the aldl. not when 1st trun the ing.

Like I say I never saw that light come on
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Old Oct 16, 2013 | 03:09 AM
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Like I say I never saw that light come on
Have you checked the bulb?
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Old Oct 16, 2013 | 08:11 AM
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Have you checked the bulb?
Not yet, I have to wait into this weekend to work on the car and start doing all those test, including checking the bulb as the first priority
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speaking of this, my scanner asks "yes or no" for 5l5 any idea what that is?
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Old Oct 18, 2013 | 10:21 AM
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speaking of this, my scanner asks "yes or no" for 5l5 any idea what that is?
when I first stat my it ask me for the 8 vin after that ask me for the 4 vin . and then ask me 5.7 yes or no.

I never had that 5l5. no idea my friend. sorry
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Old Oct 18, 2013 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by hitmanpty
when I first stat my it ask me for the 8 vin after that ask me for the 4 vin . and then ask me 5.7 yes or no.

I never had that 5l5. no idea my friend. sorry
Have you gotten this too work yet? You could try it with another obd1 vehicle to see if maybe it's a problem with the scanner itself?
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Originally Posted by MrWillys
Have you gotten this too work yet? You could try it with another obd1 vehicle to see if maybe it's a problem with the scanner itself?
my scanner is working fine .
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tomorrow I will try to make some test on the ecm. following this instructions
http://www.chevythunder.com/SES%20chart%20A-1.htm
but Iam a little confuse here. on the chart "where it say:probe ecm term A5 with test light"

my question. sure I use the testlight on the conector or in the ecm it self. can someone just clarify this point to me thanks
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Old Oct 18, 2013 | 10:12 PM
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That test checks to see if the SES bulb is good.

Disconnect ECM connectors.
Turn on ignition.
Connect terminal A5 in the connector to ground, either with a wire or a test light.
The SES light should come on.

If the SES light does NOT come on then it is probably a bad SES bulb, but could be a problem in the wiring.

I know you have a FSM, so look on page 6E3-A-18.

Last edited by Cliff Harris; Oct 19, 2013 at 11:20 PM. Reason: Added clarification. "A5 in the connector".
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Originally Posted by Cliff Harris
That test checks to see if the SES bulb is good.

Disconnect ECM connectors.
Turn on ignition.
Connect terminal A5 to ground, either with a wire or a test light.
The SES light should come on.

If the SES light does NOT come on then it is probably a bad SES bulb, but could be a problem in the wiring.

I know you have a FSM, so look on page 6E3-A-18.
thank you I will
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Old Oct 21, 2013 | 10:20 AM
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I did check the ses Light bolt and look ok. I did ground de A5 wire. and nothing happened dont know where to go no
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According to the diagram on page 6E3-A-18, the power for the SES bulb comes from the INJ1 fuse. If your engine runs then that fuse must be OK.

I think you should trace out the wire from ECM connector A5 to the SES bulb. It's probably broken or cut or something.
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Originally Posted by Cliff Harris
According to the diagram on page 6E3-A-18, the power for the SES bulb comes from the INJ1 fuse. If your engine runs then that fuse must be OK.

I think you should trace out the wire from ECM connector A5 to the SES bulb. It's probably broken or cut or something.
I will do that today thanks
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after doing more test with terminal A5. I find out that the terminal wire is ok. also at the other end Iam getting good volts with the key to on position.. So I direct my attention to the old information plastic circuit. I find out that is was making some bad contact.

now the ses light is allways on.

I follow the troubleshooting on chart A2 . and it say to get a new prom

I had 2 old ecm at home. so I did the swap and test with the same prom. and no change.

acording to the chart I need a new prom.

i been looking at ebay. and the cost is about $200 that is a big problem.

Is there a way to check the ecm prom to find out if is good or bad????????? I dont like the Idea of getting a new $200 prom. just to find out that make s no diferance
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