Runner defects?
PP service, and a complete lack of respect for the customer AND his money. Its an unfortunate attitude these days with too many people in sales and service business. Once they have the money, they could care less. They believe the service ends when they cash your check....
That WAS the safety-net that we (customers) used to have....if they dicked around or the parts were junk, we could stop -payment or cancel payment until it was resolved. Now the world of instant transactions has taken away the consumers power.
In sales the analogy is "picking apples from the tree"... if you get a bad one or lose one you picked, just go get another. Apples being customers and the tree being the market you're involved with.
My question to all the "experts" in the business schools that "sold" business type degrees was....
"what happens when you pick the tree clean?"
MY SLP runners bought a couple yrs back looked exactly like blackozvets photo. No issues, not very exciting on the outside, and pretty plain inside. Certainly wasn't any grinding or dings or anything like that. Casting was a little rough IMO...but not flawed.
Like many/most others, they got gutted and opened up to the point that I actually ground a hole in one side...had to be welded up and sanded out again. They were originally supposed to be pretty...polished outside and enlarged inside...but after some thought, naw....lets see just how much meat there is on these bones !
Besides, polished intake parts allegedly trap and hold heat. Not my goal. I can make something else shiny...these I want to perform.
IF they do not want those back, that's what I'd do. Grind the $hit outta them and open those ugly things up so you can roll a golf ball thru. Because its a low pressure gasket/seal there is not a lot required to seal up the end plates. Use a little silicone in the thinnest edges and it'll be fine...If there is a leak between ports.... who cares? its only an outside edge vac leak that might be problematic... anyway.
Sure sorry to see someone forced to deal with this. Uncalled for. These vendors need to be brought back to reality with some good 'ol fashioned customer service rebound. Where forums like this one spread the word and THEY feel the pain next quarter on their P&L statement.
THEN, you will see a 'return' to what got them where they are today...GOOD customer service with a good product.
Hope it all works out for you !
I almost expect some hassle or defect these days, but I always pursue them if not very minor and as you mentioned slp are know for small defects. This was far from a quick fix and I will pursue my $ or a exchange.
Thanks all for the support and maybe I'm too nice but I'll give them just a lil longer too try and make it right before I bad mouth them too anyone who will listen.
Back too what leesvet was talking about earlier about Customer Service. I've felt for awhile now at least we have the internet for reviews, but now I've seen a commercial on TV and herd one on the radio about these companies that fix bad internet reviews and info. Looks like we'll be back too word of mouth shortly.
Last edited by BOOT77; Apr 24, 2014 at 11:44 PM.
its like a script they all use, the false promises - its been shipped / false shipping numbers / you have received it / you better contact the shipping company / there has been a storm / the airport has been snowed in !
and then they forbid you to leave negative feedback !
So I decided too call SLP again. I called back in Jan when I was 1st told about the delay and they confirmed the production problem and the same date it should have shipped that I was given. This time I asked about the runners part number 20002 and was told they are discontinued. I then told him I had already ordered a set though another vendor and they said they were backordered and he said something like well they still may have some back stock but no new orders will be taken.
So at this point I'm almost positive Eckler's corvette is giving me the run around in hopes I'll eventually give up.
Edit: I do plan on calling them tomorrow and the next day and so on until I have my $ back or new runners!
Last edited by BOOT77; May 5, 2014 at 03:27 PM.
So when I call them tomorrow, because they don't call me today I'll ask the last time for a return shipping label and a refund.
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So one more day, before I contact the CC and start the process.
I got transferred and talked too the orig CS and she told me they got a hold of SLP and the part is discontinued and they will have fedex pick it up tomorrow and send me a $50 gift cert. It should take 3-5 days for the refund and then I'll be somewhat happy. Annoyed I don't have the runners I wanted, but happy I am not stuck with crappy runners. If the sealing surface wasn't all scratched up on one I would have asked for a partial refund and ported them anyway, but if I can't get it too seal I could have more $ in them than a new set or be stuck with junk runners.
The part is not here and once it's in my possession I'll be happy. Provided I don't get a accidental 2nd charge or some other unforeseen complication. When this whole thing started I didn't need the part. I knew it wasn't in stock and figured I had the time and could wait, but at his point I would have liked the part a lil over a month ago. Will I use Ecklers again? If I get my part tomorrow yes, just not on anything that's not in stock. I would have been happy with a refund months ago and bought it someplace else. For it too drag out this long and end incomplete would be a slap in the face.
Now back when the delay happened, I considered asking if they had in stock 20004 instead and briefly looked into it and couldn't find too good of info other than one guy saying you may get a vac leak because the holes are a diff location. Figured I had until spring(Jan at the time) and would play it safe with 20002. Now that I have pictures of both part numbers I don't see any hole difference and basically I should be able too use these as long as I delete the CSI and I already had my new chip tune it out. So it really just saves me buying a delete kit for $30 off ebay. Unless someone can tell me why these won't work on my 86 with CSI already deleted in the tune?















