C4 Tech/Performance L98 Corvette and LT1 Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine

Engine Squeaking

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 13, 2014 | 03:18 AM
  #21  
C4ProjectCar's Avatar
C4ProjectCar
Thread Starter
Drifting
 
Joined: Jul 2014
Posts: 1,426
Likes: 46
From: Lynchburg, VA
Default

The squeak is louder again. As promised, here's a video of a hot idle, around 750 RPM.
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2014 | 08:39 AM
  #22  
cudamax's Avatar
cudamax
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 1,131
Likes: 5
From: Illinois/Wisconsin Line
Default

Perfect. Great Video and that motor looks nice. So it won't go a way with the belt off? or when you push in the Clutch? If so "Thats a Tough one" I haven't real all the posts but will it increase with rpm or does it go a way with rpm?
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2014 | 03:00 PM
  #23  
C4ProjectCar's Avatar
C4ProjectCar
Thread Starter
Drifting
 
Joined: Jul 2014
Posts: 1,426
Likes: 46
From: Lynchburg, VA
Default

Originally Posted by cudamax
Perfect. Great Video and that motor looks nice. So it won't go a way with the belt off? or when you push in the Clutch? If so "Thats a Tough one" I haven't real all the posts but will it increase with rpm or does it go a way with rpm?
Thanks!
Nope, still squeaks with the belt off unfortunately. Clutch in, clutch out, still squeaks. It sure is a tough one. I'm hoping it'll go away when I rebuild.
It gets more frequent if the engine speed increases a little, but then it either goes away or the frequency becomes too high to hear at maybe 2000-2500+. I did notice a high-pitched constant tone, almost a whistle, at highway speeds which seemed to be approximately the same pitch. I thought that could either be the squeak repeating extremely rapidly.
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2014 | 05:50 PM
  #24  
DUB's Avatar
DUB
Race Director
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 19,294
Likes: 2,753
From: Charlotte NC
Default

I will write it again. If your car where in my shop I would be having my stethoscope going all over that car to find the source of this squeak.

I would pull out the oil fill cap and listen...then the PCV and listen in the valve cover...listen to the timing chain cover because I have had some timing chains rub on the cover on the inside....basically go all around the car.

DUB
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2014 | 06:07 PM
  #25  
C4ProjectCar's Avatar
C4ProjectCar
Thread Starter
Drifting
 
Joined: Jul 2014
Posts: 1,426
Likes: 46
From: Lynchburg, VA
Default

Originally Posted by DUB
I will write it again. If your car where in my shop I would be having my stethoscope going all over that car to find the source of this squeak.

I would pull out the oil fill cap and listen...then the PCV and listen in the valve cover...listen to the timing chain cover because I have had some timing chains rub on the cover on the inside....basically go all around the car.

DUB
I'll make sure to do that.
Currently I'm coming up to the deadline to get my car smogged, so I've been spending most of my spare time fixing smog-related issues.
Once I get it smogged I'll use a screwdriver as a make-shift stethoscope to find it.
I just wanted to get a head start on this by getting an idea of what the possibilities were.
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2014 | 08:54 PM
  #26  
Churchkey's Avatar
Churchkey
Melting Slicks
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 2,376
Likes: 111
From: Cherokee National Forest TN
Default

I hear 64 squeaks in 10 seconds = 384 per minute. Its camshaft / valve event speed.

384 x 2 = 768 rpm your idle speed.

Stick a hose in your ear, listen in the oil fill & pcv holes.

Listen around the intake & exhaust gaskets + the air pump & fittings on the exhaust manifolds.

Spray WD40 on the intake to head gaskets. If the noise changes or the idle speed changes it needs manifold gaskets.

Good luck.
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2014 | 09:20 PM
  #27  
C4ProjectCar's Avatar
C4ProjectCar
Thread Starter
Drifting
 
Joined: Jul 2014
Posts: 1,426
Likes: 46
From: Lynchburg, VA
Default

Originally Posted by Churchkey
I hear 64 squeaks in 10 seconds = 384 per minute. Its camshaft / valve event speed.

384 x 2 = 768 rpm your idle speed.

Stick a hose in your ear, listen in the oil fill & pcv holes.

Listen around the intake & exhaust gaskets + the air pump & fittings on the exhaust manifolds.

Spray WD40 on the intake to head gaskets. If the noise changes or the idle speed changes it needs manifold gaskets.

Good luck.
Wow, you sure can count faster than I can.
That's clever analysis. It sure narrows down the options, too.
I'll check all that stuff once I get it smogged this week. Thanks for the tips!
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2014 | 10:19 PM
  #28  
cudamax's Avatar
cudamax
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 1,131
Likes: 5
From: Illinois/Wisconsin Line
Default

You Adjust the valves yet? You might not be getting a good flow through the push rods and in turn, might not be lubing the rocker tips and they maybe be running dry at Idle and slightly above causing ur squeaking noise, while they are actually Scraping. Maybe.

When you have some time. Adjust the valves with the motor running. Stuff a pair of old jeans just below where the lower lip of the valve cover seals with the cover off to catch any running oil and do it while the motor is hot.
Loosen to get them rattling and then tighten slowly until they stop, then go 1/2 turn in. I'm thinking the noise/squeak is in the rocker arm tips. Before you do this, I think it would be a good thing to pull all the pushrods, one by one and spray some carb cleaner thru each one and then blast them with compressed air. Then put them all back in and before you do this, run it just a little bit to look and make sure you have oil coming out the top of the push rods oiling the rocker tips. Also when you pull the push rods. Inspect the tips and make sure they are not all real shinny.

Also have you ever pulled your dist? Was it real tight going back in the block or was it loose?

The distributor housing 'block' has two areas in the 'lifter oiling area' in the block. Most dist. have two round 'machined areas' that not only stabilize the dist but also block off oil flow back to the pan and force the oil to go to the lifters. If the Dist is worn and or loose, this effect will not be as good.

Have fun tracing this one and for your exhaust government sniff tests. Throw a big spring on that throttle body so as to keep ur Idle speed low to keep HC's down. Also there is a trick for the pipe sniff test to force it to run real lean that involved resisters and the O2, that and retarding the timing a few. It pushed it into like 16 or 18 to 1 for the test making it run super lean

Last edited by cudamax; Sep 13, 2014 at 10:22 PM.
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

 Brett Foote
story-5

Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

 Joe Kucinski
story-7

5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

 Michael S. Palmer
story-8

2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

 Joe Kucinski
Old Sep 14, 2014 | 05:05 AM
  #29  
Midnight 85's Avatar
Midnight 85
Le Mans Master
15 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 5,866
Likes: 60
From: Hellinois
Finalist 2020 C4 of the Year - Modified
Default

Did you try loosening the dist. and see if the squeak goes away?
Reply
Old Sep 14, 2014 | 03:09 PM
  #30  
C4ProjectCar's Avatar
C4ProjectCar
Thread Starter
Drifting
 
Joined: Jul 2014
Posts: 1,426
Likes: 46
From: Lynchburg, VA
Default

Originally Posted by Midnight 85
Did you try loosening the dist. and see if the squeak goes away?
I have not tried that yet. I'll add that to the list of things to try once I get it to pass smog. Thanks!
Reply
Old Sep 14, 2014 | 04:58 PM
  #31  
DUB's Avatar
DUB
Race Director
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 19,294
Likes: 2,753
From: Charlotte NC
Default

AS written above...using a rubber hose to your ear is a fast way to find a vacuum leak and noise.

DUB
Reply
Old Sep 14, 2014 | 11:32 PM
  #32  
VikingTrad3r's Avatar
VikingTrad3r
Oil Producer
Supporting Gold
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 9,363
Likes: 2,734
Default my 87 had a squeak and it was the dist cap

my 87 had a squeak and it was the dist cap, but it was pretty easy to pinpoint, w/out a screwdriver or scope, that it was coming from there. so might not be your issue but its worth checking out.
Reply




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:29 AM.

story-0
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-1
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-2
Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

Slideshow: Ranking the top 10 Corvette engines by torque output.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:58:09


VIEW MORE
story-3
Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

Slideshow: A Corvette pace car nearly matching IndyCar speeds sounds exaggerated, until you look at the numbers.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-04 20:03:36


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

Among a rather large group of them.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:56:44


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

Slideshow: the top 10 things Corvette owners want in the C9 Corvette

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-30 12:41:15


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

Slideshow: 10 Important Corvette 'firsts' that every fan should know.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 17:02:16


VIEW MORE
story-7
5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

Slideshow: Should you buy a 2020-2026 Corvette or wait for 2027?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 10:08:58


VIEW MORE
story-8
2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette lineup vs the world.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-24 16:12:42


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

Slideshow: 10 major Corvette problems from the last 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-14 16:37:05


VIEW MORE