1990 Engine Swap
With a straight edge across the oil pan rails measure the sump depth, add 1/8" to that measurement for gasket thickness.
Straight edge across the oil pickup metal baffle measure down to the block pan rail.
1/4" clearance = good to go.
Just edited my previous post. Any experience welding pickup tubes?
Sadly I don't have access to a TIG welder, and even if I did I couldn't use it.
I'll probably run by my friend's house and weld it today. I'm thinking two or three 1/4" to 1/8" tacks should do?
Time to add "master welder" to my resume!
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Okay, so maybe not, but it'll work. Plus it'll be cool to have an oil pickup in my car that I welded on myself
Last edited by C4ProjectCar; Apr 20, 2015 at 06:13 PM.
From what I can tell, there were two or three different styles of dampers used. One had the TDC marking 2* before the keyway, one had it 10* before, and the last had it either 30* or 40* before, depending on who you ask.
Regardless, I found that TDC is 23* before the keyway, which doesn't match up with any of those values.
My dad and I are so confused

Oh, and also, any idea what the difference is between the 0* mark and the "Vertical TDC" mark? I would think 0* BTDC would be TDC, but I can't imagine what "Vertical TDC" could mean.
Edit:
Turns out the "Vertical TDC" marking is for certain engines with the pointer directly above the damper.
I compared to my old engine, and the TDC mark on the balancers are in exactly the same position in reference to the Woodruff key, and the dampers are the same diameter. The timing pointers are also in the same position in reference to the block.
Realizing the only thing that could account for all the discrepancies was my TDC estimate, I went back and used the piston stop to find TDC again. Completely turned the engine over without feeling contact. I have no idea why I felt the piston hit the stop earlier, but it definitely didn't hit it this time, and after inspecting the stop I can conclude it didn't just bend the stop out of the way.
Anyway, my dad and I eyeballed TDC, one of us turning the crank while the other looked through the spark plug hole, and it looks like the pointer and damper are near dead-on. Nonetheless, I'm curious what the heck happened with the piston stop if anyone has any ideas.
Last edited by C4ProjectCar; Apr 22, 2015 at 02:33 AM.
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To mark or find TDC:
Rotate the engine to the piston stop, mark the balancer @ the timing pointer.
Back the engine up until it stops on the piston stop again, mark the balancer again @ the timing pointer.
The distance mid way between your marks is TDC. Use a square & a scribe to mark TDC on the balancer if the factory mark does not line up. I like a line of paint on the scribe mark, makes it easy to see when setting timing.
If the timing cover pointer does not line up with TDC an adjustable timing pointer is available aftermarket. Or you could use the balancer & timing cover from the old engine.
Check new against old balancer diameters they need to be the same. A larger diameter unit could interfere with the steering rack.
Seems like the timing pointer and damper show TDC just about right. The pointer is adjustable, but since the piston stop won't work I think I'll leave it as is.
I'll be getting Mobil-1 Synthetic 5w-30, since that seems to be the popular choice on the forum.
I see some people recommending buying brand new plugs for a new engine, but the plugs from my old engine are fairly new. They were replaced by the previous owner, I think in the last 10k miles. My old engine was on its last legs, and I think it was experiencing some detonation, but they seem to be in fairly good shape to my inexperienced eye. They've got some dark spots on the white insulator on the electrode though.
Have you guys ever had problems reusing (new) plugs from an old engine, or do you see any other reasons to replace them?


But i do know how to make an adjustable and strong piston stop with a used spark plug. I knock out the insulator and cut off the electrode. Then select a tap thats close enough to thread (course) the inside of plug where the insulator and electrode used to be - now just a shell with threads for the head. Then select a nice stove bolt that threads into that shell - something like 3/8" which is larger and stronger than more cheap piston stops. Finally i grind or file the threads at the very end so it cant hurt the piston. Use some regular nuts on the stove bolt as double nutting lock nuts. This should allow u to change the location the stop hits the piston if needed.
Good luck.
I'll be getting Mobil-1 Synthetic 5w-30, since that seems to be the popular choice on the forum.
I see some people recommending buying brand new plugs for a new engine, but the plugs from my old engine are fairly new. They were replaced by the previous owner, I think in the last 10k miles. My old engine was on its last legs, and I think it was experiencing some detonation, but they seem to be in fairly good shape to my inexperienced eye. They've got some dark spots on the white insulator on the electrode though.
Have you guys ever had problems reusing (new) plugs from an old engine, or do you see any other reasons to replace them?

Buy some inexpensive oil and a cheap filter; you're only gonna run the engine for thirty or so minutes before you change both the filter and oil; take the old filter, let it drain overnight and then cut it apart; you'll be surprised at what flushes out of a supposedly "clean" rebuild.
After you put a few hundred easy miles, constantly varying engine rpm, hopefully the rings will have seated; now change out filter and oil for Mobil One or other high quality synthetic.
Go with a decent standard oil 10-30. You could change the filter as recommended after about 1/2 hour of running. You can do this without having to drain the oil from the pan. Add a new filter, run the engine for 500 miles to break it in. Drain the oil and change the filter and add your Mobile 1 10-30.Your getting closer.
Last edited by John A. Marker; Apr 22, 2015 at 11:26 PM.
Thanks for the tip about making a stop. I just bought a longer bolt for the one I have though so I'll see if that works. I'll grind off the threads on the end and take emery cloth to it to make sure it's nice and smooth.
Is there any particular reason why I should replace these plugs? I understand that newer plugs are always better, but I'm not sure what harm using older plugs would cause. I'm starting to see "Might as well replace ____, it's cheap" add up so I want to make sure I only replace what is necessary. Also, I'm doing this to learn about cars and I find learning why you do certain things is helpful.
Last edited by C4ProjectCar; Apr 22, 2015 at 11:29 PM.
My 95 says to use Mobil 1 10-30 and I have as did the prior owner. I used dyno oil 10-40 for years in my other cars. Only changed up to the synthetic with the ZZ4 engine since it was new and in Lynda's 94 and my 95.
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Oh, and I put a light coat of moly graphite lube in the groove on the throwout bearing. Sounds like that's recommended?
Edit:
The FSM says, "Make sure that the reference marks on the clutch cover assembly and flywheel are aligned so as to maintain proper balance." I see a dot of green paint on the edge of the flywheel and a splotch of yellow paint on the clutch cover assembly, each near one particular bolt hole. I'm assuming those are the reference marks? Here's a picture:
Sorry for the endless questions. I just don't want to have to drop the transmission or pull the engine again to fix a mistake I make now.
Last edited by C4ProjectCar; Apr 24, 2015 at 06:09 PM.






