Wanting to buy some trick flow heads. looking at 30410007-m64 or 30410007. anyone tried these with a super ram manifold ? just want to make sure they will fit.using with a 1987 corvette block.

 

Hopefully their QC is much better. I bought the first generation one with upgraded springs. A couple months later they sent me some guide plates because of a bad batch. Fast forward a few years, I had a broken spring in #4. Forgot if it was intake or exhaust. Replaced that. Pulled heads and found that #4 valve had kissed and broken the piston.

My fault. I cheaped out and bought them because they were cheaper than AFR or LPE heads. Thought it would work with a LPE short block. Saved a bit too. Good thing. I spent the savings on a new short block. How cool is that.

The new short block was being built and I had the heads sent in to be looked at. Builder called me to come in and look at the heads. Driver side was fine. All 8 valves in the passenger side were loose and wobbling once the spring pressure was off. I got it fixed and sold the damn things.

If I were to ever buy a set of TFS heads, it would be bare and I'd have a good machinist go over it and load it with hardware of his choice. Probably not unless I absolutely had to.

 

I have had thoughts about using one of their products, but since determined that Lloyd Elliot is the way to go for what I have intended.

But since they are local to me, I got curious after reading this thread.

That story sounds like a young company with young/inexperienced, or low paid, not interested help.

Or help that is being pushed to produce and get products out the door. Or a company working on the edge of cheap in order to out sell the competition. After all, if you are selling your own product, you are keeping ALL the profit.

Summit Racing (TFS) is 18 miles from my house, they advertise a lot for sales help. Hopefully they retain manufacturing personnel better than sales.

Here are 2 articles I found about them, as you got me curious as to how junk like you (aklim) had got out the door.

I also found quite a few instances of quality issues on the web. Most were back in the 2002 time frame, but I did find one from 2014. I didn't join that particular forum just to be able to see the pictures, but the comments were a bit sad.

With the bad press that I saw, if I bought a set of them, I would have them checked over by a competent shop. The price to have them checked is small compared to an engine. Even if it turned out to be 1 set in 1000, knowing that there could have been 999 folks buy before you did is a bit unnerving.

The date of the 1st article is in 2011, the 2nd 2014. Machines that are shown in the 2nd cost money. A lot of it. A lot of product needs to be sold to pay for them and the building in Tallmadge, as well as pay the staff.

Now that I know that they are running a manufacturing plant there it explains the massive A/C units I saw being installed and the equally as big portable generators that running them last year. I asked and was told that at the time, there was not enough power available yet to drive the A/C units.

It seems that they recruited some more talent in 2011.

As an aside, I was collecting and restoring a certain brand of shotgun that has been around for a long time in this country. The original company went under due to a buyout and mismanagement (profits were bled purposely). The name and rights were bought and now they are produced here in Ohio. I have toured their shop and they have had similar QC and growing issues, even with all their high tech machines.

It takes a real commitment to be able to throw a scrap/marginal part in the recycle bin instead sending it out the door with fingers crossed.

https://www.summitmotorsportspark.co...ow-specialties

http://bangshift.com/bangshift1320/b...rhead-nirvana/

 

As with any other product, I look at the average price and see if this one is much cheaper. If it is, I probably will pass on it. Good product aren't cheap because they don't have to be. Cheap products aren't good because they can't be. There days if you are relatively too cheap, I can't afford it.

 

I saw similar write ups that were encouraging. I bought it because it looks like the spec was almost as good as AFR or LPE massaged heads without the high price. 1 wrecked LPE short block later, I learned that I should have taken the short cut instead of the longest way around 2 points.

 

i shopped them both out and determined afr is the better product (vs. lpe and trickflow).

afr heads were also available in a wide range of cc sizes - which enabled me to safely lower my compression (the right way vs. domed pistons)

you get what you pay for

 

You get as much as you paid for and maybe less but NEVER more.

 

I have used those heads with a superram and they work fine. I never had any issue with those heads. With a 355, superram intake, and 219 Cam it ran 11.80's in the 1/4 mile and made 343 rwhp. For the price that work well, afr will work better but they cost more.

 

decided on afr thanks everyone .now just need to find the afr head that works with superram.

 

195 comp or elim port.

Tony Mamo also is a badass porter