Guys, I broke down and bought the 89 Vette as the owner actually fixed the surging issue and some other issues. My question is: Can I completely remove the AIR parts on this car and just get a shorter belt like I did on my 84, or do I have to install the delete kit?

Also, will removing all the smog parts throw any codes? From what limited info I found on here looks like no, the AIR is not tied to the computer. Thanks in advance.

 

Removed mine on my 89, but used delete kit. No codes. If you remove egr it can throw code unless you program it out by raising temp setting in ecu

 

From the searched I did it appeared no code would be thrown, but I am still curious if you can just run a shorter belt instead of doing the delete which is $125. Just trying to save $$$.

 

nope you have to buy an idler pulley kit, ( air pump bypass kit) I bought the one from TPIS for my 89, i got no codes thrown, i removed EGR at the same time.

 

why do you want to remove the smog pump?

 

The reason I would remove the AIR system is, it gets in the way!
I believe one should respect the environment but for my C4 that gets driven less than 4000 miles a year. I'm not going to do that much harm since I still run a cat. Look at all the people that want to change X-pipe's and remove the back cats that are not monitored.

 

gets in the way of what?

now, this is just me, but if i'm looking at a car, and I see major component missing, like the smog pump, I'll walk away. gawd only know what other crazy stuff has been done.

 

Disassembling the AIR system to work on the engine takes at least one hour and heaven help you taking the 2-10mm bolts that attach to the smog pump.
Not selling my 35th. Beside I can't remove anything until 2023 by state law.
But I would if I could.

 

yeah, I can see where working an extra hour on your car would bum you out, and the extra 5 minutes to remove those two 10mm bolts - damn, that would cause just about anybody a nervous breakdown

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BTW, that smog equipment is also covered by federal law, not just state, and i'm thinking federal has no timeline -

 

This could go on all night.
I am looking forward to no state inspections. I can do what I want then. By that time I will be so old I doubt I will be driving my C4 more than 1000 miles/year. Save the wave.

 

OP, I don't know about disconnecting the EGR system. There is an electrical connection you will have to disable. Unplug it and see if the check engine light comes on. If it does you will need more help.

 

 

Maybe you are right but so what if you are? See many Federal inspections around you? I see State around me and I have to report to STATE emissions checks for newer cars but I haven't had to report to a FEDERAL one yet so WGAS? It is only illegal if you get caught and that is what religion is for. To cover the gap.

 

I believe it will throw a code 32.

 

IDK. Look in the engine and see. I find it easier to get to my plugs without working around the tubes for the AIR system. Is there a performance benefit? I don't see it. So it is dead weight at best and the hoses and the AIR pipe do stick up and cause more work around so why not toss it all and free up some parasitic loss?

 

Save the whales, shoot the seals.

 

Iam solely wanting to remove the pump and lines just to clean up the engine and make it easier to work on. I soon wanted to remove the egr also but the computer would need flashed and that's beyond my scope.

 

never said anything about federal "inspections." the feds typically don't inspect motor vehicles. the feds define emission standards to the MANUFACTURER, and I think the (federal) law states it's against the law to remove any emissions equipment installed by the manufacturer. does anyone enforce it? probably not. most state (emission) inspections, IMO, are just a means of making a buck, generating revenue - just another tax. most states do not require emissions testing at the state level, but do at the state's county level - example, stark county ohio, no, whereas right next door, summit county does. (last check) 20-bucks, every two years for a little sticker. no sticker, no (license) plates. now, you should see some of these "techs" running the test - I wouldn't let most of them check my oil.

NOW, IT'S NOT A RELIGION TO ME - I'M BY NO MEANS A TREE HUGGER, so let's get that straight, but there isn't a day goes by here where someone asks about ripping off the smog equipment. usual reasons - clean up the engine compartment - yeah, like they have some sort of show car, easier to work on the engine, right, just how much time overall do most folks spend under the hood working on their car? some of these folks are barely capable of changing their oil. how often are most people pulling plugs - once every couple years if that? and then there the performance and gas mileage gains. anyone that thinks they're going to see noticeable gains in anything is nuckin-futs. bottom line - most folks removing emissions equipment have no phucking clue what they're doing. just another bubba in there phucking up another corvette. now, it's your corvette and you can do pretty much anything you want, for me, i'm a little bit of a purest, and I see no reason to remove it. so, full circle and back to my original question, WHY?

 

I don't show my car. I do change plugs, cap and rotor every year, flush fluids every 2. Performance difference? You won't notice but it will reduce drag. It really serves no purpose to me that I can see. My pulley is easier to work around than the pump was. The hoses have gotten in the way. So to answer your question, why am I bothering to work around something and may have to remove it and reinstall it for no performance gain? As to being a purist, well, most of my C4 isn't really original so what is one more item? If it breaks, why am I spending more money fixing something that won't yield anything to me?

 

that's why I said, "most folks." you are obviously an exception to the rule.