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Old Jun 4, 2017 | 10:33 PM
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What exactly do you mean "move the wires so they don't arch". Elaborate please?
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Old Jun 4, 2017 | 11:42 PM
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Try to keep wires away from each other and away from any grounding metal with plastic wire looms and wireties, so wires do not touch each other or ground out on motor or exhaust manifolds.
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Old Jun 5, 2017 | 09:25 AM
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Try to keep wires away from each other and away from any grounding metal with plastic wire looms and wireties, so wires do not touch each other or ground out on motor or exhaust manifolds.
that has already been done. i used the original wire looms in the car and zip tied them from being near any metal or hot surfaces. Thanks for the explanation.
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Old Jun 5, 2017 | 09:29 AM
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that has already been done. i used the original wire looms in the car and zip tied them from being near any metal or hot surfaces. Thanks for the explanation.
what are they arching against?
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Old Jun 5, 2017 | 09:52 AM
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what are they arching against?
they are arching where the wire boot connects to the spark plug. Arching on the motor block itself.
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Old Jun 5, 2017 | 10:50 AM
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they are arching where the wire boot connects to the spark plug. Arching on the motor block itself.
are they all the way on? Hear the snap?
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Old Jun 5, 2017 | 11:24 AM
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I know you said you recently replaced the plugs, and they were pre-gapped. I would suggest going back and gapping them yourself at 0.035" instead of the larger specific gap. That is plenty of gap to ignite the mixture, and will make it easier for the spark to arc across that gap instead of where you don't want it to arc.
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are they all the way on? Hear the snap?
yes they are all the way on. I even rechecked them to make sure.
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Originally Posted by MatthewMiller
I know you said you recently replaced the plugs, and they were pre-gapped. I would suggest going back and gapping them yourself at 0.035" instead of the larger specific gap. That is plenty of gap to ignite the mixture, and will make it easier for the spark to arc across that gap instead of where you don't want it to arc.
thats my next step. thanks for the suggestion
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Old Jun 6, 2017 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Error_234
thats my next step. thanks for the suggestion
The oil smelling like gas seems to have been ignored. Suggest compression testing all cylinders.
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Old Jun 6, 2017 | 11:20 AM
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The oil smelling like gas seems to have been ignored. Suggest compression testing all cylinders.
good idea, since I'm pulling the plugs anyway might as well check to see. I wouldn't think it's that because it so subtle but it's always good to eliminate that from the equation. Waiting on some parts and will update in a couple days
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Old Jun 6, 2017 | 02:10 PM
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good idea, since I'm pulling the plugs anyway might as well check to see. I wouldn't think it's that because it so subtle but it's always good to eliminate that from the equation. Waiting on some parts and will update in a couple days
I was just thinking of the mechanism of gas getting into oil. Through the rings is a prime candidate. I would think this would give you low compression or at least it would show up on leak-down test. Of course there are other causes of bad compression test, such as bad valves. This may have nothing to do with the miss. It's just that gas in the oil can wipe out parts such as bearings so you will want to track this down if it persists.
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Old Jun 7, 2017 | 01:09 AM
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I think you have a ruptured fuel pressure regulator diaphragm. That will allow fuel to go into the plenum. It then runs down the runners and into the cylinders. From there it works it's way around the rings and into the oil.
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Old Jun 7, 2017 | 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Cliff Harris
I think you have a ruptured fuel pressure regulator diaphragm. That will allow fuel to go into the plenum. It then runs down the runners and into the cylinders. From there it works it's way around the rings and into the oil.

that has already been changed. Thanks for the siggestion
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Old Jun 12, 2017 | 09:30 AM
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UPDATE. Changed plugs and wires again. check gap on old plugs all but one was .5 the other being .6. thought that might of been the issue but miss is still there. Compression check was done also and everything was within specs. lowest reading was 190 the highest being 207. all other were around 205. barely within specs but still within 10%. i could not get a check on cylinder 8 (passenger back plug). I went with Taylor wires this time.

so this is where i stand. still with a slight stumble/misfire. i drove it over the weekend and going to check over everything today. what about the PCV? would this cause these issues also?
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Old Jun 13, 2017 | 01:59 AM
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Several years ago GM reduced to spark plug gap spec from 0.045 to 0.035 because of misfires. Try a smaller gap and see how that works for you.
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Old Jun 13, 2017 | 08:14 PM
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You say plugs are .5, do you mean .050, if so that's to big of a gap, try .035 to .038.
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Old Jun 14, 2017 | 09:36 PM
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I dont have any arching issues anymore since changing the plugs and wires again. but stumble still continues.
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