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Old Jun 2, 2017 | 09:09 AM
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...,so if the Cats are removed and replaced with straight pipe...do I need to make tuning adjustments based on what the O2 sensors will see?

1994 C4 LT-1 Automatic Convertible...67K miles.

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Originally Posted by sprink94
...,so if the Cats are removed and replaced with straight pipe...do I need to make tuning adjustments based on what the O2 sensors will see?

1994 C4 LT-1 Automatic Convertible...67K miles.
Nope, and I did exactly what you are describing on my 94' back in 2012. I just cut off the cats with a saw and welded in pipe. Rest of the system was stock. Sounded great at wide open throttle, but horrible just cruising. It took all the refinement out of the car, and smelled horrible with no noticeable performance gain. If you don't want to go long tubes then leave the manifolds/cats and do something different "cat-back".
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Originally Posted by TorchTarga94
Nope, and I did exactly what you are describing on my 94' back in 2012. I just cut off the cats with a saw and welded in pipe. Rest of the system was stock. Sounded great at wide open throttle, but horrible just cruising. It took all the refinement out of the car, and smelled horrible with no noticeable performance gain. If you don't want to go long tubes then leave the manifolds/cats and do something different "cat-back".
I appreciate that information....I will leave well enough alone for now.

I am at the crossroads of heads and cam for the LT-1 to get 450 HP or do a LS swap. I've only had the car a month so I'm kicking a few ideas around....I know one thing for sure...these sucky 2.59 gears have got to go!!! I will probably move to 3:42 or 3:55 gears before I do anything else...lots of bang for the buck with gearing !!
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For just removing the cats, no retune is required. You could do it if you choose, but its not needed.

The car will wake up quite a bit from heads/cam and a gear ratio and torque converter upgrade. 3.73s are a common choice if remaining with the D36 carrier, however if you are going to seriously upgrade the torque output over 450-500, then a D44 should be in the long term budget, and that affords more gear ratio choices.
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For just removing the cats, no retune is required. You could do it if you choose, but its not needed.

The car will wake up quite a bit from heads/cam and a gear ratio and torque converter upgrade. 3.73s are a common choice if remaining with the D36 carrier, however if you are going to seriously upgrade the torque output over 450-500, then a D44 should be in the long term budget, and that affords more gear ratio choices.
I'm sort of leaning that way. Ligenfelter built a 383 for an '88 I had almost 30 years ago. With about 400 crank HP and 2800 RPM converter ahead of 3.73's it ran low 12's consistently and would occasionally hit 11.90's if the planets were all lined up LOL !! The 700 R4 had some work done to allow me to play...ran D36 without failure...but...motors get stronger and things break...so a D44 might be a sound long term investment.
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