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Old Jun 24, 2017 | 12:39 AM
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i recently replace the intake manifold.
Icant found vacuum leaks or vacuum leaks at hoses, seem to be find
I also installed a mild cam
I dont measure the intake vacuum before i change this parts
Some people says that needs to be near 15
I have 10
Haynes manual says at least 10
At this moment im living at 7200 feet altitude

We know that atmosferic pressure is less at high altitude than sea level

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The vacuum is less too or is not the same ?
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While I'm no atmospheric engineer, I can't see why the engine would have different vacuum values? Your piston "pull" would remain the same and create the same internal (inside the intake) vacuum as any other place on the planet.

Now, the "mild cam" is a different question. Cams tend to make the engine idle rougher as the valve timing change is designed to be more efficient (more powerful) at a higher RPM band.

10 seems low to me, but that is me.
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Old Jun 24, 2017 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Eduardo L98 1991
We know that atmospheric pressure is less at high altitude than sea level.

Question:

The vacuum is less too or is not the same?
You are already aware of the answer to this question. When you look at your gauge (not connected), it reads zero. But when you're at 7,200 ft. elevation, and you look at that new bag of potato chips, it's puffed up like a pillow! And your ice cream is full of micro-bubbles because it's whipped, so at altitude, the lid is pushed off the top of the container!

As you know, your vacuum gauge will read zero at sea level, too!

The technical term for psi (pounds per square inch) is really psi-g (psi gauge). That means the gauge you are using is referenced to the atmospheric pressure at that location.

So, 10 inches vacuum at altitude is the same as 10 inches vacuum at sea lever, because that is referenced to the air pressure at that location (psi-g).

The reason the potato chips bag gets puffed up is measured in psi-a (absolute). Psi-a at sea level is about 14.7 psi-a, and at 7,200 ft., it's about 11.2 psi-a.

Here's an interesting chart:
www.avs.org/AVS/files/c7/c7edaedb-95b2-438f-adfb-36de54f87b9e.pdf

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Thanks fornyour answers
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I installed

8-302-8 210/220 .512/.512 112. Cam

Do you believe this is the problem ?

I cant found air leaks and idle is 750rpm
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I agree, 10 seems a bit low for that mild a cam . Maybe late ignition timing?

As far as altitude, This is a cut and paste from an automotive technical school website.

When testing manifold vacuum, it’s important to remember that if an engine idles at 22” Hg at sea level, it will idle at about 17” Hg at 5,000’, 14” Hg at 8,000’ and 12” Hg at 10,000’ altitude. Variations from the calculated standard, of course, are the weather conditions, the engine design, and how well the engine management system adjusts spark advance and air/fuel mixture to correspond to a change in barometric pressure.
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Originally Posted by RWDsmoke

When testing manifold vacuum, it’s important to remember that if an engine idles at 22” Hg at sea level, it will idle at about 17” Hg at 5,000’, 14” Hg at 8,000’ and 12” Hg at 10,000’ altitude. Variations from the calculated standard, of course, are the weather conditions, the engine design, and how well the engine management system adjusts spark advance and air/fuel mixture to correspond to a change in barometric pressure.
Thanks for your asnwer, then 10 is correct for me

I will check at sea level in a few months
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