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Old Mar 29, 2019 | 01:06 PM
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Doh! I got caught up in his question. Still, from what I see, Innovate makes the "chip" which is some sort of thing you splice into the MAF to change the readings. Guess he will have a hard time doing that. Must be why they don't post instructions on the site if it is THIS. Oh well, I was going to use it myself. Nothing I like better than cheap and easy performance and eating flying pigs.
Im not familiar with that product it says it works on 1985-2019 Corvettes so how is that possible if 1990-1993 Corvettes DON’T have a MAF and why are they calling it a “chip” if 94-19 DONT have a chip?
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Im not familiar with that product it says it works on 1985-2019 Corvettes so how is that possible if 1990-1993 Corvettes DON’T have a MAF and why are they calling it a “chip” if 94-19 DONT have a chip?
Kinda why I think it screws with the MAF values to fool the ECM into dumping more fuel. They know that it is cheap and the buyers don't know better and want something good for cheap.
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Most of the mods mentioned are good but one I didn't hear mentioned was the March Underdrive 3 piece pulley set for the 91 C4. This kit definitely decreased parasitic loss from accessories. This is a worthwhile mod that can stay with you even with larger displacement engines. As mentioned before Id start with the exhaust then on to the engine bolt ons. The frisbee mentioned is a large disc bolted to your water pump pulley. It was placed on the engine to dampen the engagement of A/C but no noticeable difference when removed. Good Luck
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Old Mar 31, 2019 | 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by l98tpi
Most of the mods mentioned are good but one I didn't hear mentioned was the March Underdrive 3 piece pulley set for the 91 C4. This kit definitely decreased parasitic loss from accessories. This is a worthwhile mod that can stay with you even with larger displacement engines. As mentioned before Id start with the exhaust then on to the engine bolt ons. The frisbee mentioned is a large disc bolted to your water pump pulley. It was placed on the engine to dampen the engagement of A/C but no noticeable difference when removed. Good Luck
Hpw much loss? How much gains?
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Old Mar 31, 2019 | 02:01 PM
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Hpw much loss? How much gains?
I didn't do dyno runs before and after, so I cannot give any specific power gains, but the engine definitely increased rpms quicker.
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Old Apr 1, 2019 | 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by l98tpi
I didn't do dyno runs before and after, so I cannot give any specific power gains, but the engine definitely increased rpms quicker.
It turns the alternator and water pump slower so I do question whether the gain is worth the cost. The frisbee, well, that helps but you gain a little roughness, I'm sure. The water pump and alternator, one is cooling and the other is charging. Kinda more important. Not sure if the gains are worth it. Obviously, if you spin the motor to 10000, sure. At idle to mid, is there much of a loss in both alternator and water pump? Assuming there is something in the equation that helps power other than a feeling.
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Old Apr 1, 2019 | 01:52 AM
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Old Apr 1, 2019 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by aklim
It turns the alternator and water pump slower so I do question whether the gain is worth the cost. The frisbee, well, that helps but you gain a little roughness, I'm sure. The water pump and alternator, one is cooling and the other is charging. Kinda more important. Not sure if the gains are worth it. Obviously, if you spin the motor to 10000, sure. At idle to mid, is there much of a loss in both alternator and water pump? Assuming there is something in the equation that helps power other than a feeling.
Well I can say I’ve had 10yrs of testing the under Drive pulleys in Racing application. AutoX and time attack. With a sbc 350 and sbc 406. No cooling issues or charging issues. And I do run a lightweight Battery with no issues charging. RPMs usually range between 2000 and 5000rpm with idleing in grid. And a faster increase in rpm is relative to faster acceleration.

And to take it a step further; the water pump and alternator do take an X amount of power to turn. That’s why electric water pumps are used by some in drag race application and even track application. There are some guys that don’t even run alternators when drag racing. There will, if not already be vehicles without alternators and belt driven water pumps in order to reduce parasitic loss and get better efficiency from the engines.
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If all you want is low 14s use some headers and a larger converter that should do it .2000 is so tight it feels stock
3.07 gear and a 26-2800 felt great.
A 3.45 gear would feel night and day, not too little not too much
Those 2.xx gears are horrible
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Old Apr 1, 2019 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by l98tpi
Well I can say I’ve had 10yrs of testing the under Drive pulleys in Racing application. AutoX and time attack. With a sbc 350 and sbc 406. No cooling issues or charging issues. And I do run a lightweight Battery with no issues charging. RPMs usually range between 2000 and 5000rpm with idleing in grid. And a faster increase in rpm is relative to faster acceleration.

And to take it a step further; the water pump and alternator do take an X amount of power to turn. That’s why electric water pumps are used by some in drag race application and even track application. There are some guys that don’t even run alternators when drag racing. There will, if not already be vehicles without alternators and belt driven water pumps in order to reduce parasitic loss and get better efficiency from the engines.
Good to know. On my L98 F-body, it really didn't make any difference mpg wise. I was running a stock cooling system other than an Edelbrock water pump that was supposed to be better, even flow to both heads, yada, yada, yada. Since I didn't have a thermometer on both sides of the head to verify their claims, I don't really know if it was better than others for sure.

In the future, who can say. I agree that the less you have to run with in a competition of speed, the better. More weight means more power to achieve the same results. What I am not sure about is that barring a race situation, is it really beneficial on the street?
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Old Apr 1, 2019 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by cuisinartvette
If all you want is low 14s use some headers and a larger converter that should do it .2000 is so tight it feels stock
3.07 gear and a 26-2800 felt great.
A 3.45 gear would feel night and day, not too little not too much
Those 2.xx gears are horrible
I really wouldn't. If I were changing the TC, why put a new TC in front of an older trans? I'd wait till rebuild time to do the TC which should be matched to the cam's needs. As to the rear end, why spend any money on an old D36? Wait till you get the D44 to spend the money.
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Old Apr 1, 2019 | 08:29 PM
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As to the rear end, why spend any money on an old D36? Wait till you get the D44 to spend the money.
I picked up a 3.07 dana 36 for $200.00. Compared to the 2.59 rear my car had it was by far the BEST bang for buck mod on my car.
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Old Apr 1, 2019 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Dt86
I picked up a 3.07 dana 36 for $200.00. Compared to the 2.59 rear my car had it was by far the BEST bang for buck mod on my car.
I suppose that for $200, if it holds for a couple of years, it's probably a good deal.
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Originally Posted by aklim
I suppose that for $200, if it holds for a couple of years, it's probably a good deal.
Don't assume its junk. It is not. I purchased it from a well known forum member here.
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Originally Posted by Dt86
Don't assume its junk. It is not. I purchased it from a well known forum member here.
Can't remember who it was but I bought a D44 on the forum too. Most abuse it had was the dust particles hitting it while it was sitting. Sent it out for a rebuild and was told it was cracked and junk. Bought a lot of used parts myself and found it was much easier for me to be pleasantly surprised than to expect it is good and be disappointed.
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