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I swear, I planned on enjoying my 85 completely stock for a year or two...
I managed to make it one season, so I figure I'm doing pretty good.
I was originally planning on doing a Blowerworks supercharger kit until I started eyeballing things with a borrowed (damaged, bearings were shot) turbocharger. I'm nowhere near firing the old girl up but got the real hard part done: I built manifolds and got the turbocharger under the hood. (No small task, lots of "I've got it" followed by "nope, that won't work" moments.)
I'm planning on running a max of 8 PSI with a front mount intercooler. My "dont be greedy" target is 350HP, 450 lf-ft tq. Car already has a Holley HP system in it to handle the fuel and spark.
Does anyone have any thoughts or general advise they'd like to share?
I'm planning on that, everything is going to get wrapped or heat shielded. I may still move that harness down, where it's further away from the hot side of the turbo.
Any idea how much power it makes at that boost level (without the nitrous)?
The maths based on what she ran in the texas mile say about 700-725fwhp on spray. I would guess 600fwhp without nitrous.
Keep in mind I am running some well ported heads and arguably a huge cam, carbureted with a big single-plane intake, free-flowing exhaust, and lots of RPM.
The maths based on what she ran in the texas mile say about 700-725fwhp on spray. I would guess 600fwhp without nitrous.
Keep in mind I am running some well ported heads and arguably a huge cam, carbureted with a big single-plane intake, free-flowing exhaust, and lots of RPM.
Yeah, that's way, way more power than I'm hoping to get with my conservative boost levels!
I'm planning on that, everything is going to get wrapped or heat shielded. I may still move that harness down, where it's further away from the hot side of the turbo.
Yep heat rises and expands. Get those wires as far away from that bad boy as you can. And wrap the crap out of it so it doesn't toast your hood paint.
From: I tend to be leery of any guy who doesn't own a chainsaw or a handgun.
Originally Posted by Mixednuttz
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My compliments on your fabricating skills. I love to see custom projects.
Respectfully, the air intake position is going to defeat some of the advantage of having an intercooler. (I expect you've already thought about that.)
I'm running 7# of boost (non-intercooled) in my '84. I don't have any dyno measurements of the engine, but on the track it seems to pull as well as my 450+ hp big block. I think you will easily surpass the 350 hp you mentioned earlier.
My compliments on your fabricating skills. I love to see custom projects.
Respectfully, the air intake position is going to defeat some of the advantage of having an intercooler. (I expect you've already thought about that.)
I'm running 7# of boost (non-intercooled) in my '84. I don't have any dyno measurements of the engine, but on the track it seems to pull as well as my 450+ hp big block. I think you will easily surpass the 350 hp you mentioned earlier.
Thanks! This project has been somewhat brutal. As far as the intake location: unfortunately, its somewhat of a "damned if I do" deal. Theres so little room in the engine bay (this made me realize how small C4s really are) that I'm somewhat stuck as far as intake location.
I already have a version 2 of the turbocharger manifold in my head. It is above my fabrication ability, though. Interestingly, I found out that my company recently hired someone that fabricated turbocharger systems. I may see if he's willing to make me some better manifolds.
I have another block that I'm planning on building for much higher boost. When that one goes in, I'm going to add W/M injection for the higher boost and run that turbo as high as it'll go before it just heats the air. That should keep the IAT down. (Also a much nicer turbocharger. This one is more to prove it's going to work.)
I took her out for a shakedown run. I am happy (that's an understatement!) to report that everything works! Boost control is solid, no creep. The turbocharger spools up almost immediately, no lag at all. That certainly woke the old girl up! I can't wait to get her on the dyno at TPIS in May. It should be interesting to see what Jim can do for tuning and what the final numbers are. I'll report the numbers as soon as I get them.
I took her out for a shakedown run. I am happy (that's an understatement!) to report that everything works! Boost control is solid, no creep. The turbocharger spools up almost immediately, no lag at all. That certainly woke the old girl up! I can't wait to get her on the dyno at TPIS in May. It should be interesting to see what Jim can do for tuning and what the final numbers are. I'll report the numbers as soon as I get them.
Wahoo!!!!
Now learn from us budget boost guys -
The heads will lift at some point. Better bolts may help, but the stock style gaskets dont like it either.
The cast pistons are robust, I can prove it, but your tune must be SPOT ON. Keep the air temps cool and dont go throwing timing at it trying to chase the last 5hp.
Once you get into the land of diminishing returns, back it off a few degrees.