Valeo clutch solution found
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Racer
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Valeo clutch solution found
Have any of you put a clutch in only to have it go bad way too soon . Well bill Boudreau aka zfdoc found it what going on . . And has a solution for you and anyone that wants to put a clutch in . Please call him you know his reputation for rebuilding the zf transmission is second to none . Please call him before you put your new clutch in you will be very glad you did I promise 602 319 6575
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Jun 9, 2020, 03:41 PM
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The reason I want you to call him is so he can explain why there are so many clutch failures . If ya don’t call him and find out before you put you clutch in and then have to do it again within a few months or it’s always slipping . I really don’t want to say I told. You so . He is the foremost expert on rebuilding the zf transmission . Those that have one of his trannys swear by them he is also the designer of the beam plates for the c beam .
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Racer
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Please just call bill at his number you know how much fun to put a clutch in . He can explain what’s going on way better than me . I was just at his place and what he shared blew my mind if you don’t know who he is just ask around his reputation is second to none . I promise you will be thankfull you called him for
Drifting
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Basically the end result is unequal pressure and pre-mature wear and failure. Doesn't matter on the brand, he said the C4 clutches are all are this way. He did say I could fix it in my own shop as well.
Call him!
Last edited by KyleF; Jun 9, 2020 at 02:46 PM.
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Racer
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From: ridgecrest ca
The reason I want you to call him is so he can explain why there are so many clutch failures . If ya don’t call him and find out before you put you clutch in and then have to do it again within a few months or it’s always slipping . I really don’t want to say I told. You so . He is the foremost expert on rebuilding the zf transmission . Those that have one of his trannys swear by them he is also the designer of the beam plates for the c beam .
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Racer
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From: ridgecrest ca
Please I just want to save you guys the pain of seeing that new clutch fail . Ask around his reputation is second to none . No games here just trying to help out the people on this forum
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The reason I want you to call him is so he can explain why there are so many clutch failures . If ya don’t call him and find out before you put you clutch in and then have to do it again within a few months or it’s always slipping . I really don’t want to say I told. You so . He is the foremost expert on rebuilding the zf transmission . Those that have one of his trannys swear by them he is also the designer of the beam plates for the c beam .
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Drifting
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I was really hoping this thread would actually have content in it. I'm super disappointed to see "Well just call ZFDoc!"
No one here is questioning whether ZFDoc knows his stuff or not--everyone who knows that name knows he is the expert in the field.
But either he himself posts in this thread providing all the details, or it's the responsibility of you, the thread starter, to accurately convey the details for the benefit of the community. Having every single person with a manual C4 slamming his phone line because due diligence was not done is unfair.
No one here is questioning whether ZFDoc knows his stuff or not--everyone who knows that name knows he is the expert in the field.
But either he himself posts in this thread providing all the details, or it's the responsibility of you, the thread starter, to accurately convey the details for the benefit of the community. Having every single person with a manual C4 slamming his phone line because due diligence was not done is unfair.
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Then don't. Either be helpful...or don't post. So far, this is total worthless click-bait.
Team Owner
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The purpose of these forums is to pass along helpful/technical information....not "tee up" vendors to spend hours on the phone.
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Racer
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Hey guys I was just trying to help . I have known this man for 20 plus years and am just trying to help . Geez I know he would not mind helping anyone with ? S . That is the way he is . He and Greg are my 2 best friends in the world but if you feel I have done such a bad thing then please ignor it but to say I am a bad guy for trying to share this. . Well I can’t say what I am thinking . You guys have a great day but I am not going to try to defend myself when I am just honestly trying to save people here the joy of pulling their Tran us multiple times because of this issue .
Drifting
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I don't think it was intended to be. I would think having this info out there is important.
I would think this is what most vendors want. That is a very odd statement. Why would you think a vendor wouldn't want customers calling him when he offers the service to correct the issue?
Better than someone posting the wrong information. I understand if you plan on making a post you should take better notes, but you guys are really biting on this for some reason.
That was his goal, to be helpful.
I would think that woul be exactly what he wants. Everyone with a ZF calling and getting services from the guy who calls himself ZF doc...what a travesty. Honestly, not that many on here with manuals, not that many installing clutches, and when they do or need other parts I imagine Bill would probably like a shot at them first before they buy elsewhere. 
I bet this thread couldn't even generate a call a day for a year.
I will say it again.. if you are doing a clutch or need other parts for your ZF... even rebuild service, call Bill. I think he will be happy to talk to you.
I would think this is what most vendors want. That is a very odd statement. Why would you think a vendor wouldn't want customers calling him when he offers the service to correct the issue?
I bet this thread couldn't even generate a call a day for a year.
I will say it again.. if you are doing a clutch or need other parts for your ZF... even rebuild service, call Bill. I think he will be happy to talk to you.
Last edited by KyleF; Jun 9, 2020 at 04:27 PM.
Drifting
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As someone pointed out, the whole point of these forums is to increase the collective knowledge of the Corvette community through the free sharing of information so that everyone can benefit. Shouting about how awesome ZFDoc is and telling people to call him if they want to find out "the secrets" should not be the result of a thread titled, "Valeo clutch solution found."
Drifting
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As someone pointed out, the whole point of these forums is to increase the collective knowledge of the Corvette community through the free sharing of information so that everyone can benefit. Shouting about how awesome ZFDoc is and telling people to call him if they want to find out "the secrets" should not be the result of a thread titled, "Valeo clutch solution found."
Here is a thought, let's fix the issue. One person call Bill and post the information up here. Done.
Last edited by KyleF; Jun 9, 2020 at 04:39 PM.
Team Owner
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Maybe because the thread's title claims that the thread contains the solution to ZF clutch issues (or rather, the valeo pressure plate issues, I would assume, since that's been the bane of any ZF Corvette owner ever since the mold went to China...), and yet the thread's content is instead one dude shouting at everyone to call ZFDoc rather than...you know...just sharing the information here?
As someone pointed out, the whole point of these forums is to increase the collective knowledge of the Corvette community through the free sharing of information so that everyone can benefit. Shouting about how awesome ZFDoc is and telling people to call him if they want to find out "the secrets" should not be the result of a thread titled, "Valeo clutch solution found."
As someone pointed out, the whole point of these forums is to increase the collective knowledge of the Corvette community through the free sharing of information so that everyone can benefit. Shouting about how awesome ZFDoc is and telling people to call him if they want to find out "the secrets" should not be the result of a thread titled, "Valeo clutch solution found."
No actual information has been shared! Nothing. We all know who ZF Doc is...so that wasn't helpful. We know how to get ahold of him. What we DON'T know, is the mysterious "secret to the C4 clutch".
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We already know about Bill.
Drifting
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That was probably all that needed to be said, he actually said he has been friends with Bill for 20 years. I still think Bill would like a shot at taking care of anyone's ZF needs that finds this thread. He really is a nice guy.
Last edited by KyleF; Jun 9, 2020 at 04:52 PM.
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Racer
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From: ridgecrest ca
I just spent 8 days at his house listened to him answer the phone all day and never say I wish they stopped calling . He ils tarting s service yo take your clutch and optimizing it for best performance . I believe the cost is 150 . But knowing him as I do I am not going to even try to say what the process is that would make him mad . That I know having been friends with him for 20 years . So if you might be interested in having your clutch optimized give bill a call he will be more than happy to share the process and be if it’s of having it done . To you who have taken. The time to decide he would be pissed . Shame on you . I am old enough to be most of your guys dad and having been in business for myself I never got upset to see someone call and inquire about something . If he decides I have been a bad boy he will tell me not you guys who may not even know the man . Go to your room . You should be ashamed of your selves . Think I will go back to a forum where people are thankfull to learn something about their cars that may down the road save them time money and the headache of having to redo a clutch job that lasted 3 months to a year .
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I just spent 8 days at his house listened to him answer the phone all day and never say I wish they stopped calling . He ils tarting s service yo take your clutch and optimizing it for best performance . I believe the cost is 150 . But knowing him as I do I am not going to even try to say what the process is that would make him mad . That I know having been friends with him for 20 years . So if you might be interested in having your clutch optimized give bill a call he will be more than happy to share the process and be if it’s of having it done . To you who have taken. The time to decide he would be pissed . Shame on you . I am old enough to be most of your guys dad and having been in business for myself I never got upset to see someone call and inquire about something . If he decides I have been a bad boy he will tell me not you guys who may not even know the man . Go to your room . You should be ashamed of your selves . Think I will go back to a forum where people are thankfull to learn something about their cars that may down the road save them time money and the headache of having to redo a clutch job that lasted 3 months to a year .
I have to say most everyone that has responded have been good forum members and I have learned something from each of them.
But I looked at the title and said let me look for this important clutch information. I know someday I will have to change my original clutch in the car that I have owned for 24 years.
I am getting up there in age too (57) and I don't mean to disrespect you at all, this is not my intention! But I have to agree with the rest of the people who posted. There is absolutely no information here. Of course I will call Bill before I ever replace my clutch that is a given.
But I was looking for some technical information with a title "Valeo clutch solution found" as you posted.
I believe you really did mean well
But the title was absolutely misleading.
Sorry for the rant be well
Last edited by grandspt; Jun 9, 2020 at 06:21 PM.