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Old Jun 10, 2022 | 01:23 PM
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Hello all, new member here.

I just purchased a '93 base model from a colleague. It's currently kinda rough, and has the wobbly steering column issue, as many do.
My question is this: can I replace the column with a unit from a '92? My car's VATS has been disabled, so I don't see why not, but figured I would ask the experts here.

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Old Jun 10, 2022 | 01:40 PM
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Yes, vats really has little to do with swap. Ignition lock cylinder can be transferred.
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Old Jun 10, 2022 | 01:48 PM
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Sweet!! I purchased a perfect column from a guy parting out a restored '92 that I want to install. Being that the VATS is already disabled on mine, and swapping the cylinder is an option, I'm stoked. Thanks!
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I believe it would be important to use a column from an A4 if 'auto' or if car is an M6 'manual' use an M6 column. '92 & '93 should be a direct match if you match trans type.
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Old Jun 10, 2022 | 02:59 PM
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If you have the wobbly wheel, and it is the hinge pin that is the culprit, putting the oversized pin in would be a much less effort fix (I did this)... you might have a hinge pin issue with the new to you 92 column as well. Maybe take a peek to see if the hinge pin is loose before you pull the entire column? then you have the other one as a spare or can resell?
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Old Jun 19, 2022 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by WVZR-1
I believe it would be important to use a column from an A4 if 'auto' or if car is an M6 'manual' use an M6 column. '92 & '93 should be a direct match if you match trans type.

Please explain why the column would be different depending on transmission type?
I have swapped several interior parts out so far from an auto car that are a direct fit, even when I thought they wouldn't be.

I can see the VATS being problematic, 92-93, but why the transmission?

TIA
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Originally Posted by pedricd
If you have the wobbly wheel, and it is the hinge pin that is the culprit, putting the oversized pin in would be a much less effort fix (I did this)... you might have a hinge pin issue with the new to you 92 column as well. Maybe take a peek to see if the hinge pin is loose before you pull the entire column? then you have the other one as a spare or can resell?
I'm not too sure if I want to dig that deep in my garage, plus I had a local Corvette guy try to fix it at his shop. He said that two of the bolts were stripped and he couldn't make the remaining bolts tight enough to correct the slight wobble.
The column I purchased is rock-solid and has recently been rebuilt.
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Originally Posted by TRScotty
Please explain why the column would be different depending on transmission type?
I have swapped several interior parts out so far from an auto car that are a direct fit, even when I thought they wouldn't be.

I can see the VATS being problematic, 92-93, but why the transmission?

TIA
Is your car an A4 'Auto' or an M6 'manual'? An M6 column if your car is an A4 won't have the park/lock cable provision. A talented person could probably change but the person needs to understand the column. If your car is an M6 then the hardware in an A4 column that allows park/lock will need to be defeated. Simple as that in print. Not that easy in real life unless talented & understand.

Post whether your car is an A4 or an M6 and quite likely the column you bought should have a label on the mast jacket with an eight digit number. What is that number? I can likely advise.
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Originally Posted by TRScotty
I'm not too sure if I want to dig that deep in my garage, plus I had a local Corvette guy try to fix it at his shop. He said that two of the bolts were stripped and he couldn't make the remaining bolts tight enough to correct the slight wobble.
The column I purchased is rock-solid and has recently been rebuilt.

sounds like the local corvette guy doesn’t know the fix technique.
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As VikingTrad3r said the mechanic does not know the issue. The bolts may be tightened trying to resolve the issue to point off stripping the threads but the issue is GM used a steel hinge pin in an aluminum knuckle. The steel pin creates excessive wear in the knuckle from people using the steering wheel as a lever to help them out of the car. If people can’t get out of a C4 without using the wheel as a lever, they should buy a different generation Corvette.
The oversized pin usually solves the problem and is a much easier fix than replacing a column. There are a lot of threads here on accomplishing that repair.
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this ^^^^

your guy is doing way more work than he needs to do and costing you much more money than it needs to.
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Originally Posted by Fiberbundle
As VikingTrad3r said the mechanic does not know the issue. The bolts may be tightened trying to resolve the issue to point off stripping the threads but the issue is GM used a steel hinge pin in an aluminum knuckle. The steel pin creates excessive wear in the knuckle from people using the steering wheel as a lever to help them out of the car. If people can’t get out of a C4 without using the wheel as a lever, they should buy a different generation Corvette.
The oversized pin usually solves the problem and is a much easier fix than replacing a column. There are a lot of threads here on accomplishing that repair.
It's funny you mention that. I just fixed the pivot pin in my 91, and immediately after doing it got in and out. I'm 49, in good shape, very active. Yet the bodies natural reflex is to push off of something when trying to stand from a seated position that low. The hand goes to the wheel almost intuitively. Was looking at it and discussing it with my Dad, and he suggested removing the plastic on the A-pillar, putting a pair of 1/4-20 nut certs in, then drilling the plastic and using a black plastic grab handle like you'd find on most industrial fork lifts, or simply a leather strap that is black. I am now on a mission to find a black leather belt about 1-3/4 to 2 inches wide and making my own grab handle that is low profile and not obnoxious and in your face. Of course my 91 is a driver, salvage title due to previous owners spouse kicking the rear quarter panel. I'd be hesitant if it was a clean low mileage c4 with any rare options. Will post a thread and photos soon. Should look good
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That is certainly one option. I am 74 and simply follow this way to get in and out. Getting in I stand with my back to the car, put my *** in the seat, and then just pivot my legs into the car. Getting out I pivot putting my feet on the ground, left hand on the door jam, right hand to the roof and stand up. A REALLY old guy showed me this technique years ago. Of course it is all much easier with the top down. LOL

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i do that but push off the tunnel with my right foot.
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Thanks all, I didn't know (or think) about the ignition lock and needing to be in "P" to work.
Hopefully I can either figure this "fix" out or find someone who knows how to do it.

Thanks again!!
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